Quote from: Sabby on May 11, 2014, 02:48:20 AM
Horrors of war doesn't count as a male centered issue, even though most soldiers are male?
Custody battles doesn't count, even though (and you agreed to this) they heavily favor the mother over the father?
False rape accusations doesn't count, even though the majority of false rape reports target men?
The rest are up for debate, so I'll give you those, but I'd like you to explain why these three issues are not a male centered issue.
The topic is not whether they are male centered issues. It is whether they are
Mens Rights issues. The two things are NOT THE SAME. Mens Rights issues (note the capital letters!) are social topics cherry picked by a hate group to try and paint men as victims of societal oppression, usually by women.
Tell me, how do you think those issues compare to, say, not allowing women or blacks to vote, or segregation, or other legitimate civil rights movement causes? Because Mens Rights organizations are a right wing response to legitimate civil rights causes, and for you to label issues of soldier casualties, for example, as Mens Rights issues trivializes them by associating them with a hate group. It's not difficult to understand.
And yeah, custody battles are shitty, and false rape accusations are shitty too in the very rare event that they actually a) happen and b) lead to any actual legal consequences for the unjustly accused, but for you to harp on about them, a relatively uncommon phenomena when compared with, I dunno, REAL RAPE, which happens on a vastly more common scale, makes you kind of look a bit like a reactionary misogynist.
Yes, there are lots of bad things that happen to men, but for you to align them with and frame them in a debate as actually being addressed by Mens Rights hate organizations, or part of a widespread institutionalized societal bias against men in general, makes you look supremely ignorant.