'
Prometheus' didn't verify or negate the AVP series from canon. Just didn't refer to them (although, one could easily say it happened to retread much of the same ground).
If anything, the biological wizardry shown in '
Prometheus' might make the previously ridiculous Predalien reproduction method, sadly, a lot more plausible... The one thing I felt which could believably erase '
Requiem' from having canon status, up until now.
Quote from: Barringer on Jun 10, 2012, 12:26:07 AM
If AVP and Prometheus are in the same universe, the Engineers and Predators would have to have had contact considering that they were both influencing the development of human culture at the same time.
From what I remember, the Engineers are inferred to have been responsible for making us, but little more than that. Predators just happened to find our world when we were at a later tribal stage of development. Whether or not they could be said to have encountered one another is totally up in the air (no pun intended). If you want both series to be in the same continuity, you could just as easily say they happened to meet as not.
I've often said the Predators are more likely to have stolen or been given their technology than to have made it themselves (thermal vision doesn't lend itself to the invention of things like electronics and I'd suspect they would have had trouble coming up with an engraved, viewable writing system, too). Perhaps the Engineers tried to influence them and they took them over. Or artificially evolved Predators to serve as guardians... The old vampires-and-werewolves relationship.
I later found out that the '
Mass Effect' series took that same logic to explain the krogans and was executed well enough there, so... If a future film-maker wanted to take that angle on things, there's a precedent for doing it in a plausible way. Just combine '
Underworld' and '
Mass Effect', throw in some Lovecraftian themes and you're good to go.
Basically, the entire thing is still a sandbox for whoever's lucky enough to get to go and play in it.
Quote from: Hudson on Jun 10, 2012, 01:19:05 AM
I don't understand what makes certain people so uncomfortable about the AvP films not being considered canon.
All in the eye of the beholder, my friend. Right now, if someone wants them to be, they can. Likewise, if someone doesn't, they don't have to.
QuoteCBW disappeared in 2004. What makes you think his global corporation would disappear without a trace simply because of him (with only small percentage in share prices) dying and within 8 years his son...or whatever already has enough patents and patents pending to jumpstart an even bigger and more impressive corporation!? Oh, and by the way, Peter Weyland is f**king British. Last time I checked...Charles was not.
No different to Stark Industries in the world of '
Iron Man'. Father dies, child prodigy takes over. Or brother/cousin/nephew/whatever.
Nationality doesn't matter. It's an accent. One spent formative years somewhere the other didn't. 'Charles' could've settled in the UK and had a family. Who knows?
QuoteAvP are movies based on comics made by shitty filmmakers with no credibility before or since they made those movies. That's enough reason for me to shit on PWSA's face and tell him to f**k off when he tries to shoulder himself into the glory of the Alien canon. I'm glad that Prometheus is basically AvP with a brain, even if it's not that great of a movie.
Eh... Be careful where you sling mud around. There's plenty of '
Prometheus' which comes across as comic-like, too. In a few places, some of the characters of the first AVP film act
more intelligently.
One doesn't have to tear down one to bring the other up.
Quote from: predxeno on Jun 10, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Anyway, are there any official names for the "Super Hugger" or the "Proto-Alien" yet?
We'll get them when the 'art of' book gets published in English. It's a lot of speculation, right now.