"Enter Vent" and "Transition" as an Alien

Started by VEF214, Jan 21, 2010, 02:04:18 PM

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Huol

Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 23, 2010, 08:22:17 PM
Quote from: predalien27 on Jan 23, 2010, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: Xenodog on Jan 23, 2010, 06:27:08 PM
Reading back through some older posts, I read a very good point.

Aliens can sense both Preds and Marines, from a fair distance, can't they? So which dumbass would jump into a vent when they are in plain sight of enemies!
Well, maybe you want to escape or something in SP, but I don't see that happening in MP because it is too fast and does not matter if you die as an Alien.
BTW, I didn't see too many vids with the Alien jumping into and out of vents, but do we know if the player gets hurt during this "cutscene"?  ???

I don't even remember seeing any vents in MP.

An avp game without vents?
:o

Eidotemit

The only maps I played with the alien on were outdoors.

VEF214

Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 23, 2010, 08:46:46 PM
The only maps I played with the alien on were outdoors.

Saving the best for last.

predalien27

Quote from: VEF214 on Jan 23, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 23, 2010, 08:46:46 PM
The only maps I played with the alien on were outdoors.

Saving the best for last.
Outdoor maps are where the Alien excel the least!

Eidotemit

In the past maybe, but they were able to top the boards here.

AJL

Quote from: Xenodog on Jan 23, 2010, 06:27:08 PM
Aliens can sense both Preds and Marines, from a fair distance, can't they? So which
dumbass would jump into a vent when they are in plain sight of enemies!

I am not sure what your talking about exactly...

Situation:

There is a big Room with Alien in it and a Vent which leads away from there.
And there are Enemies, about to blow that alien to smithereens... (There is
no way that alien could fight them and survive...)

But only a dumbass alien would try to escape through that vent and live to
fight another day... ??

Brother

No vents in MP? The use mechanic wont be annoying us there then.

Xenodog

Quote from: AJL on Jan 23, 2010, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: Xenodog on Jan 23, 2010, 06:27:08 PM
Aliens can sense both Preds and Marines, from a fair distance, can't they? So which
dumbass would jump into a vent when they are in plain sight of enemies!

I am not sure what your talking about exactly...

Situation:

There is a big Room with Alien in it and a Vent which leads away from there.
And there are Enemies, about to blow that alien to smithereens... (There is
no way that alien could fight them and survive...)

But only a dumbass alien would try to escape through that vent and live to
fight another day... ??

No, I meant it as only a dumbass Alien would leave themselves open to attack. (During the animation.)
And you could still dodge.out-maneuver/outrun the attacks.

Cal427eb

I think I saw quite a few vents in the 1v1 Predator match. That seemed to be a good level for the Aliens.

thrown_hammer

I don't have a problem with the "enter vent" button, but the "transistion" button concerns me. I used to really enjoy corkscrewing down hallways.

Cal427eb

Quote from: thrown_hammer on Jan 23, 2010, 10:33:18 PM
I don't have a problem with the "enter vent" button, but the "transistion" button concerns me. I used to really enjoy corkscrewing down hallways.
You'll be able to do that but you will have to press many more buttons. :-\

thrown_hammer

Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 23, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Quote from: thrown_hammer on Jan 23, 2010, 10:33:18 PM
I don't have a problem with the "enter vent" button, but the "transistion" button concerns me. I used to really enjoy corkscrewing down hallways.
You'll be able to do that but you will have to press many more buttons. :-\

Yeah that's why it concerns me... ;D

AJL

My problem is not so much with the need to select the Vent to enter/exit
(Though I don't like that either) but mostly I am concerned about the loss
of control
, and mostly while exiting the vent and entering some room...

Hypothetical Situation:

There is a room with one door and one vent opening on the ceilings, and there
are few marines camping in there ready to kill what ever try to come through the
door... So I decide to try and sneak in through the vent at the ceilings...

In AvP1/2:

I crawl through the vent and to the ceiling of the room with the marines, I then
crawl to the wall behind them and down to the ground and then and... rip them
apart of something... or die trying...

In AvP(3):

I crawl through the vent to the point where it opens up to the room with the
marines and I activate the opening... My "auto pilot" kicks in... It moves my bug
through the opening and with my luck drops down to the ground and parks my
bug right in front of those marines... followed by some alien dying screams...

predalien27

Quote from: AJL on Jan 23, 2010, 11:21:09 PM
My problem is not so much with the need to select the Vent to enter/exit
(Though I don't like that either) but mostly I am concerned about the loss
of control
, and mostly while exiting the vent and entering some room...

Hypothetical Situation:

There is a room with one door and one vent opening on the ceilings, and there
are few marines camping in there ready to kill what ever try to come through the
door... So I decide to try and sneak in through the vent at the ceilings...

In AvP1/2:

I crawl through the vent and to the ceiling of the room with the marines, I then
crawl to the wall behind them and down to the ground and then and... rip them
apart of something... or die trying...

In AvP(3):

I crawl through the vent to the point where it opens up to the room with the
marines and I activate the opening... My "auto pilot" kicks in... It moves my bug
through the opening and with my luck drops down to the ground and parks my
bug right in front of those marines... followed by some alien dying screams...
Based on what we've seen, all I can say is you have to wait for a pred to spread them up, depending on the game mode.

Lone Warrior

Quote from: predalien27 on Jan 23, 2010, 11:46:29 PM
Based on what we've seen, all I can say is you have to wait for a pred to spread them up, depending on the game mode.

There shouldn't be a dependacy for the pred to spread them out in the first place.

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