Quote from: mrlee on Feb 22, 2010, 01:52:58 PM
You know. AVP had alot of potential with its story. And i like the Frozen Pyramid. But they just totally blew it. With the low rating, shite gore, not staying true to the Predators Ritual method (skinned bodies).
Skinning an Alien? Be my guest.
Quote from: mrlee on Feb 22, 2010, 01:52:58 PMThe Aliens generally were much better to,
Oh god no they weren't. The AvP Aliens suffered from the fleshy fallout of AR, but they were otherwise very true to the basic concept - slender, efficient avatars of death with incalculable, cosmic intelligence. The AvPR Aliens were bulky, ugly, moved like sacks of shit and didn't do a single clever thing all movie.
Quote from: mrlee on Feb 22, 2010, 01:52:58 PMThere was a great plot potential there, especially with the Marine lady and her Daughter.
No, no there was not. The only plot that could've existed is what we got, and that was a generic zombie slasher plot. As for the mother and daughter, that was one of the worst decisions of all, as it aimed to emulate the relationship between Ripley and Newt. Unfortunately, it lacked all the setup that originally validated that relationship. The fact that the actress for the mother looks like Ripley and that the daughter has lined ripped directly from Newt doesn't help at all. A thoroughly shallow, insulting attempt to reach out to the fans.
Quote from: mrlee on Feb 22, 2010, 01:52:58 PMBut again, what spoils AVP movies the most...is the pathetic run-time. The films are so short, they cant build up atmosphere, they have to rush through everything at 100 miles per hour... you dont get attached to characters. The Marine lady and her daughter see there father took by an alien...and dont even appear to be bothered by this at all!!!
Predator went for one hour and forty minutes or so. The
Alien movies have similar lengths.
Quote from: mrlee on Feb 22, 2010, 01:52:58 PMThe Hospital setting was great, n i loved the design of PredAlien..but again the short run time rapes it of any potential tension building. Many scenes appeared to be cut out also. Anyone remember the photo of an alien on top of a car appearing to rip the roof off, i mean holy shit how cool would that of been? But no, they cut it out. Also im sure i read they were ment to show a scene of the boys dad (the cop) holding out with the villagers in the town centre hoping for Evac. Instead he talks on the phone, shoots his shotgun n thats it.
Townspeople against Aliens = dead townspeople. Doesn't matter what they're armed with. The only way to make that situation work is to set up an expectation. Have the characters moving to the 'hold-out' location when the last piece of information pertaining to that location implies that the hold-out is successful. When the characters actually show up, have the location splattered with signs of battle - spent shells, blood, damaged objects and the like.
That way, what the audience thought was a secure location has now become a potential Alien hotspot. Aaaaand instant tension. It's not exactly a breeze to pull off, but it's not rocket surgery, either.
Quote from: mrlee on Feb 22, 2010, 01:52:58 PMBut AVP2 was the better of the two, a little truer to the series than the first AVP.
Let me count the ways it was untrue:
- Aliens. In all aspect, the Aliens were untrue. Dumb, weak, useless, ugly. Acid blood that doesn't do shit. The Aliens aren't ruthless at all, either. Any Alien (including the Predalien) could've killed Wolf with the right opening, yet none of them did.
- Dumb Predator. Wolf was going to shoot two Aliens, in his hands. Aliens bleed acid. Skinning corpses when he was on a clean-up mission. Engaging in an honour duel with the Predalien when... he was on a clean-up mission.
- Dumb teen drama. Has no place in my goddamned AvP.
- Earth setting. If it has Aliens in it, it doesn't take place on earth. Period.