Alien or Predator?

[SpaceMarines]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L4spg8vyo#

[First Blood]

^ Clapton for the win.

[Ghostface]

^ Clapton for the win.

second that.

[huntin8-t0n]

I'd mention that just because Dannyboy says so, it's not sure Pf used only bare hands. But anyhow, seeing what prey he was going after, and the armament he carried... with the outcome we saw, Anytime easily bests Pussyface.

[SiL]

Also they weren't shoulder to shoulder in there,

Between all the boxes and tables they had crammed into the place, yeah, they pretty much were. There wasn't a lot of room.

and ontop of that he took them out in seconds, while lets say a swat team would take at least a few minutes and that's if they make no mistake and use flash bangs.

Predator was invisible and had an auto-targeting shoulder-mounted plasma cannon.

Next there's a better way to flush out an enemy then shooting in every direction.

Maybe, but it worked fine.

Also ontop of that several memebers of the strike team did have live guns!

Which is why I very deliberately said "if everybody had been using ..."

Plus harrigan can be seen aiming and unlike Dutch who constantly fired from the hip.

Which is a convention of movie-making at the time, not a real indictment of the characters themselves. Dude still shot plenty straight.

Like I said anytime is skilled but his fights were by far generally easier.

Yes. Because he was smart and always maintained near-complete control of the situation. He absolutely dominated his prey, like an intelligent hunter. He didn't leap in and hope for the best.

Pussyface, got shot up and lost a fricken arm.

Which goes to show he wasn't as good, especially when you take into account he had his ass kicked by someone who had no advantages -- he was visible to the Predator at all times, had no fancy gear, and no specialist training (Not on the level the commandos would have, for example).

The original Predator had an easier time because he made it that way. He called the shots. He was specific and discerning. The second Predator got whooped halfway across LA because he didn't think.

[PredatorGFX]

Sarcastic about being dutch and not understanding the joke.

Okay, got it.

Spoiler

[close]

LoL, About the racist thing.

I yeah...huh...well...

http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af320/stephan095/avpnew%20dawn%20smileys/facehugged.gif

Get it ?
being sarcastic about sarcasm ?
ah nevermind, different countries different taste of humor.
let's stay on topic.

I was just being stupid man, I caught the joke pretty fast. 

You are are quick learner 

[The Ghoul]

Also they weren't shoulder to shoulder in there,

Between all the boxes and tables they had crammed into the place, yeah, they pretty much were. There wasn't a lot of room.

and ontop of that he took them out in seconds, while lets say a swat team would take at least a few minutes and that's if they make no mistake and use flash bangs.

Predator was invisible and had an auto-targeting shoulder-mounted plasma cannon.

Next there's a better way to flush out an enemy then shooting in every direction.

Maybe, but it worked fine.

Also ontop of that several memebers of the strike team did have live guns!

Which is why I very deliberately said "if everybody had been using ..."

Plus harrigan can be seen aiming and unlike Dutch who constantly fired from the hip.

Which is a convention of movie-making at the time, not a real indictment of the characters themselves. Dude still shot plenty straight.

Like I said anytime is skilled but his fights were by far generally easier.

Yes. Because he was smart and always maintained near-complete control of the situation. He absolutely dominated his prey, like an intelligent hunter. He didn't leap in and hope for the best.

Pussyface, got shot up and lost a fricken arm.

Which goes to show he wasn't as good, especially when you take into account he had his ass kicked by someone who had no advantages -- he was visible to the Predator at all times, had no fancy gear, and no specialist training (Not on the level the commandos would have, for example).

The original Predator had an easier time because he made it that way. He called the shots. He was specific and discerning. The second Predator got whooped halfway across LA because he didn't think.

Yet PF didn't use the plasma caster, no sounds of plasma fire or machine gun fire until the scared druggy ran out the door shooting.


Also Anytime would have a hard time doing those singling out tactics in a huge city like LA. I've lived there, its pretty cramped, specailly in public.

Also the commando's in predator, worst trained strike team I ever saw. I'm sorry but somtimes my real life experence gets the hold of me. My cousin is a retired Navy seal, and my father was Force Recon and my step father was a ranger.


Also anytime had magic balls of super heated plasma that doesn't cook off ammo. Blain (I think his name was blain) was shot in the back by the plasma caster, and his ammo pack is well mounted on his back. How he didn't turn into a fire cracker I have no clue. After all we all know plasma is hot, hotter then most flames. Either the ammo would of been cooked off or all of the bullets were melted into one hard mass. Either way blain's friend, wouldn't be able to use the minigun or at least not for more than second.

Also from what I see harrigan was a lot better at a straight up fight, when dutch got into one with anytime he got the living hell beaten out of him. Also anytime didn't show no where near as much hand to hand skill as PF did. It seemed more like a WWE match to me then a true brawl.

Anyways we both have our own views you say anytime is better and i say PF is better.

[DoomRulz]

Preds don't fire off plasma. If they did, Anytime would've burnt down the entire forest every time he fired a shot off.

[The Ghoul]

Preds don't fire off plasma. If they did, Anytime would've burnt down the entire forest every time he fired a shot off.

Then what is it doom?


its seem pretty hot reguardless even if its blue fire balls.

Look at the wounds it give blain and other victums. It burnt the entire wound. After all they used the word;  cauterized.

[DoomRulz]

Just energy of some sort. If it was plasma as we know it, the leaves on the trees would have been burning whenever the shot was fired because of the enormous heat levels that are generated.

[The Ghoul]

Just energy of some sort. If it was plasma as we know it, the leaves on the trees would have been burning whenever the shot was fired because of the enormous heat levels that are generated.

We are already experementing with plasma, depends on the level and type that is used.


Anyways the fact is that crap is hot enough to melt through an ammo pack and burn through a man. That is more than enough too cook off gun powder.

Even a flame from a lighter can cook off a bullet.

[DoomRulz]

I agree Blain should've lit up since the blast went through his ammo pack, but I'm just saying if it's red hot plasma, the whole forest should've been on fire.

[The Ghoul]

I agree Blain should've lit up since the blast went through his ammo pack, but I'm just saying if it's red hot plasma, the whole forest should've been on fire.

Also depends how fast its traviling.

For Example: Lightning, its made of plasma but it doesn't lite the world on fire, well minus a forest fire somtimes.


However I do agree the projectile is too slow and would most likely lite everything around it on fire within at least a 60 foot radius.


Blain should of been a fire cracker and a human torche along with the jungle.

[SiL]

Yet PF didn't use the plasma caster, no sounds of plasma fire or machine gun fire until the scared druggy ran out the door shooting.

There's a while between PF entering the room, and the cops reaching it, during which there's an explosion.

Also, blown-open chests, ala Blaine.

Also from what I see harrigan was a lot better at a straight up fight, when dutch got into one with anytime he got the living hell beaten out of him.

Harrigan got in a straight-up fight with a one-armed, bullet-ridden Predator. While armed. With the Predator's own weapon. You're really making that comparison?

Also anytime didn't show no where near as much hand to hand skill as PF did. It seemed more like a WWE match to me then a true brawl.

Neither showed any. PF swung around a bit. Anytime just punched the shit out of Arnie's head -- what more did he need to do? They're not hand-to-hand combatants, they're hunters.

[DoomRulz]

Being a hunter doesn't mean you don't know how to fight. Especially in the case of a Predator. If there's a chance or even risk you could end up losing equipment, you'd better know how to fight.