Aliens Bishop

Started by felix, Apr 19, 2023, 04:56:25 AM

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E. Shaw

E. Shaw

#585
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 30, 2024, 09:35:43 PMSomehow, Hudson survived.

Would be poetic since he eas the one who feared the Xenos most. Everyone else died who seemed calm about it in comparison to Hudson losing his Shish kebab.

Slutty Badger

Slutty Badger

#586
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 30, 2024, 09:11:28 PMWould be wild if Hudson got free from the Hive and got as far away from Hadley's Hope and then went to The Derelict.

Which wouldn't have been useful to him, considering that the Derelict was also obliterated.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#587
You sure about that?

Slutty Badger

Slutty Badger

#588

E. Shaw

E. Shaw

#589
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 31, 2024, 09:43:06 AM
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 30, 2024, 09:11:28 PMWould be wild if Hudson got free from the Hive and got as far away from Hadley's Hope and then went to The Derelict.

Which wouldn't have been useful to him, considering that the Derelict was also obliterated.

In The Director's Cut there is a discussion that the Derelict is far from Hadley's Hope, with one guy saying to a Manager, "you know that couple / yahoos you sent out into middle of nowhere?" And they discuss a grid reference. I assumed it was far on the outskirts of Hadley's Hope, maybe on the other side of the planet.

SM

SM

#590
Resurrection novel and Weyland-Yutani Report say it got blowed up.

YMMV.

E. Shaw

E. Shaw

#591
Quote from: SM on Mar 31, 2024, 10:24:24 PMResurrection novel and Weyland-Yutani Report say it got blowed up.

YMMV.

Not that Weyland-Yutani would lie...

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#592
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 08, 2014, 05:37:59 PMPretty sure SM has already ruled on this.  No way Ripley leaves orbit without making sure the derelict was obliterated.

E. Shaw

E. Shaw

#593
Just realized The Director's Cut diminishes The Queen. Having the Derelict present with thousands of eggs aboard makes having a egg laying Queen less necessary.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#594
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 06, 2024, 09:02:50 AMBonus points if the colony logs said as much.  More bonus points if the colonists set explosive charges and blew up the derelict along with any remaining eggs out of an abundance of caution.

SiL

SiL

#595
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 10:52:10 PMJust realized The Director's Cut diminishes The Queen. Having the Derelict present with thousands of eggs aboard makes having a egg laying Queen less necessary.
The Queen explains how you get thousands of eggs to put on a ship in the first place.

E. Shaw

E. Shaw

#596
Quote from: SiL on Mar 31, 2024, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 10:52:10 PMJust realized The Director's Cut diminishes The Queen. Having the Derelict present with thousands of eggs aboard makes having a egg laying Queen less necessary.
The Queen explains how you get thousands of eggs to put on a ship in the first place.

Hmmm.. so you think she laid the eggs on The Derelict?
I just assumed she was hatched under the Cooling Towers in The Hive; mainly due to the Theatrical Cut is what I watched for a long time.

SM

SM

#597
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 10:52:10 PMJust realized The Director's Cut diminishes The Queen. Having the Derelict present with thousands of eggs aboard makes having a egg laying Queen less necessary.

If the Directors Cut diminishes the Queen, then the Theatrical Cut is no different.

E. Shaw

E. Shaw

#598
Quote from: SM on Apr 01, 2024, 12:05:57 AM
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 10:52:10 PMJust realized The Director's Cut diminishes The Queen. Having the Derelict present with thousands of eggs aboard makes having a egg laying Queen less necessary.

If the Directors Cut diminishes the Queen, then the Theatrical Cut is no different.

It differs in that a ship full of eggs makes a Queen pointless; why have her lay egs if thousand already are waiting? But now that you mention Ripley confronts Burke about him sending Hadley's colonists to the ship in both versions. So technically its an issue in both versions, but the Director's Cut has the visuals of the Derelicy which stirs the memory of Ripley saying, "Kane said that there was thousands of eggs there."

SiL

SiL

#599
Quote from: E. Shaw on Apr 01, 2024, 12:04:18 AMHmmm.. so you think she laid the eggs on The Derelict? 
No, the eggs in the derelict are much older than the Queen. But the eggs had to come from somewhere originally -- a Queen Alien was the film's answer. Not that exact Queen, but some other, earlier Queen.

Quotewhy have her lay egs if thousand already are waiting?
Because eventually those eggs would get used up and need replacing, or the entire species would end.

This is a very odd line of thinking.

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