Noah Hawley Explains Why ‘Prometheus’ Isn’t “Useful” for His ‘Alien’ Prequel

[Local Trouble]

That'd mean I'd probably need to dive into RPG "lore"...

Wouldn't that canonize it?

[marrerom]

That being said, you can still piece together how the black goo works with what is shown on screen. The room where the Ampules were found shows a shrine to an Alien/Deacon looking creature. Take that, combine it with the opening scene which showed how the goo breaks down living things and then redistributes their DNA, and you can work out how the Pathogen works and what is happening to Fifield, the Hammerpedes, and Holoway. 

So, again, there's nothing in the film itself that says that the ampules are some later-stage version of the pathogen, just a supposition based on a mural.

Nothing overt, but the clues are there.

The film itself makes no distinction between what we see at the beginning, and what we see the rest of the film. It certainly offers no explanation that this is Goo V.2. If the goo breaks down an organism to combine it with another, where does Goo V.2 even come from? The goo has done its job, destroying one thing to make another. Where is it explained that this process then creates Goo V.2 with new properties?

There is no difference between the goo in the opening scene of Prometheus and the goo in the ampules later on in the film. Its the same biotechnology. The only difference is the type of organism that has been exposed to the goo and stage of infection which it is in.

Stage 1: Expose the goo to an organism.

Stage 2: That organism is broken down into component DNA.

Stage 3: The DNA is dispersed and infects other lifeforms.

The ampules we see in the mural room are full of goo at the 2nd stage. The alien/deacon creature has already been broken down, stored in the ampules, and is ready to be released. Unfortunately for the Engineers there was a outbreak on LV-223 and they all died. 

[SiL]

Again, absolutely nothing in the film suggests or supports that this is what is happening. This is all post hoc explanation.

[SM]

The Engineer drank a small cup of goo and broke into bits. Holloway and Fifield ingested differing amounts, and transformed into angry mutants, and didn't break into bits.  The worms on LV-223 swam in it and turned into angry mutants and didn't break into bits.

[SiL]

And the engineer at the beginning turns into dust, not goo.

[Local Trouble]

This is all very confusing.

[SM]

Always thought it looked like some kind of lifeform the way it moves and swarms and the Engineer disintegrates. Not unlike the stuff that gets Ledward and Hallet, but also not the same.

Maybe there is a vid in this after all.

[marrerom]

Again, absolutely nothing in the film suggests or supports that this is what is happening. This is all post hoc explanation.

There is no exposition scene, sure. But to say there is nothing in the film that supports this? Come on. Every example I am giving is taken from the movie.

The Engineer drank a small cup of goo and broke into bits. Holloway and Fifield ingested differing amounts, and transformed into angry mutants, and didn't break into bits.  The worms on LV-223 swam in it and turned into angry mutants and didn't break into bits.

Correct.

Engineer drinks stage 1 goo = breaks into bits.

Holloway and Fifield are exposed to stage 2 goo that has been created using an alien/deacon creature and are infected with its DNA. Same for the worms.

And the engineer at the beginning turns into dust, not goo.

The dust is part of the dispersal process. Its shown again in Covenant when David bombs the Engineer home world. In the opening scene of Prometheus you can see the black goo spreading and coursing through the Engineer's veins. You even get a look at it in the inside of his arm as his veins collapse

[oduodu]

how can it be same thing if stage 1 is different for the 2 examples you gave?

the resultimg creatures would not be the same?

the ampules had different stage 1 hosts?

despite the deacon on the wall fifield turned into something not representing a deacon?

[marrerom]

how can it be same thing if stage 1 is different for the 2 examples you gave?

the resultimg creatures would not be the same?

the ampules had different stage 1 hosts?

despite the deacon on the wall fifield turned into something not representing a deacon?

Yes, the ampules had a different stage 1 host. The black goo in the opening of Prometheus was used on an Engineer, and the goo in the mural room had been used on an alien/deacon.

So, for example, if Fifield and Holoway had been exposed to a stage 2 ampule made from a predator they probably would have mutated with dreadlocks, mandibles, or green blood.

[SM]

You've just made all that up though.

It's interesting, but has no basis in the film.

[Acid_Reign161]

Since the goo (Plantarwarts plumpityplumps) is the big star of the series now, maybe we should have a crossover with the black oil from The X-Files and the mood slime from Ghostbusters.

Let's see if it can make a toaster dance.

The best crossover would be with the black goo from 'Species II' 😁👍

[marrerom]

You've just made all that up though.

It's interesting, but has no basis in the film.

None of what I am saying is made up. Every example I am giving is taken from the movie.

[oduodu]

see nothing in the movie that supports your reasoning.

[SiL]

You've just made all that up though.

It's interesting, but has no basis in the film.

None of what I am saying is made up. Every example I am giving is taken from the movie.

Where does the film state that the ampules are second stage and from different sources?