Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 06, 2023, 08:05:30 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 06, 2023, 07:58:55 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 06, 2023, 07:52:46 PMIt wasn't Tom and Alec who had the final say or direction on the look though. It all came from Dan. He directed them to go a certain way and he made the final call. Tom and Alec just lead the team after they're given the direction.
Even so, look at the Hot Toys version, slight tweaking of proportions but much better looking.
Yes. But that... isn't the same as the director giving them direction to pull back on the traditional look. Thats a toy based off of that look. And yeah, the toy tweaks look nice. But like, it's not hard to see it's not on Tom and Alec, it was Dan's decision. They also replaced the face with CGI. Nothing ADI did there, that's all direction from Dan. So I'm just not sure why ADI is the sole blame over and over again.
Are people critiquing the face of Feral here, or that ADI even worked on the movie? I believe in one of the interviews Ridgetop and Aaron did with Dan, he even admits he went too far with the face after hearing the reception.
I had a brief conversation with Tom at a convention a few years ago
He told me exactly what you had written, namely that the final decision always lies with the director and that they often have to do things that they don't necessarily like.
I already mentioned that in relation to the terrible aliens in AvP-R. So I never want to blame ADI alone for anything.
But the fact is that all ADI designs, be it Predator or Alien or even The Thing, simply don't really work anymore.
I'm not saying that CGI is better, because as we all know it actually isn't, but I'm just wondering why this development at ADI has taken place so obviously recently.
I mean, is it really true that Jeunet said he wanted the aliens to have teeth like a horse? or that the chestbursters must look like sperm whales ? Or did he say: "oh yeah, that looks good enough, let's get going, we have a schedule to stick to". ? It just so happens that the designer gets scolded by the public for not making the creatures look so good.
Of course, it's also a bit unfair if you look at it superficially.
The credits just say ADI and not "bad decision by the director"
In contrast, I still think their Alien 3 designs are great and some of the best the series has to offer
Whether Bamby, Dog Alien, Bishop, Queenhuggy and Queenchestburster,
they still look great even today