Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 01, 2022, 09:16:22 PMA hour into every movie?
You're really going to pick on the specific minute?
QuoteCompletely different, Nostromo? Kane is abandoned.
Dallas wouldn't abandon Kane. He'd try to freeze him. Ash, the guy who is sabotaging the mission, would back him up. "Sure it'll work."
QuoteHadley's Hope? Nuked.
They didn't know if it was the Aliens or not. They had to find out -- when they did, they wanted to nuke it, yes.
QuoteThe Prison? Everyone takes Ripley seriously the first time, thus starting the plan against the Xenomorph before more people die. And of course, Spike's owner would identify the marks on him and something would have been done about it.
Done what about it, exactly?
QuoteKnowledge makes a f**kton of difference, the Predator is always prepared, that is a downright unfair matchup.
You really must think the Aliens suck if the only way they have any chance is to completely blindside their prey and hope they kill enough of them before they work it out. I like to give them more credit.
But let's flip it for a second. This is where we started:
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 29, 2022, 07:33:06 PMWhen a Predator dies in AVP, it never looks like it's because the Aliens are dangerous, it's never because a Xenomorph outwits, overwhelms or beats the Predator, but because that specific Predator was stupid,
I agree, this is so often the case. But:
QuoteBroken Tusk's party being rebellious dumb teens too busy murdering civilians to realize their incoming demise,
So the Predators know about the Aliens -- and still die because they're idiots. How would them
not knowing about the Aliens make this any better? Now they die because they didn't know the Aliens existed and were coming from them. Aliens didn't really need to outwit, outsmart, or outmatch them, did they? They just surprised them.
QuoteCeltic being an idiot who was beating Grid around the entire fight only to then let himself die because he forgot acid was a thing,
How would Celtic not knowing what an Alien is fix this? Surely he'd be even more justified thinking the net would hold if he doesn't know about the Alien?
Quotethe crew at the start of Requiem shooting explosive weapons inside a ship.
How would that Predator not knowing what an Alien is help fix this scenario?
Also, how is it
Quote11/10 AvP media the aliens are treated like trash and the Predators like gods,
But you just listed a non-comprehensive list of AvP stories treating Predators like morons?
Let's be clear here: Your solution to "the Aliens never outwit, outsmart, or overpower Predators, the Predators just act dumb and die" is to ... make the Predators
actually dumb when it comes to the Aliens ... ? The Aliens still don't overpower, outwit, or outsmart anything, the Predators now just have a
reason to make these mistakes that get them killed. We've solved nothing, other than making the Predators not look quite as bad.
The idea that Aliens can only be effective if they're attacking a completely ignorant force is more insulting than Wolf manhandling Aliens in the sewer.