Prey Catch All Thread

Started by Corporal Hicks, May 22, 2021, 07:54:07 AM

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oduodu

oduodu

#2206
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 28, 2022, 08:41:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMyess....absolutely this


You haven't even seen it  :laugh:



just agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is  the gripe i have with the movie too.

i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.

[cancerblack]

[cancerblack]

#2207
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 28, 2022, 08:41:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMyess....absolutely this


You haven't even seen it  :laugh:



just agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is  the gripe i have with the movie too.

i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.

You kind of do, to actually see all those brief moments in the correct context.

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#2208
Oh what YouTube critics have wrought.

oduodu

oduodu

#2209
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:15:58 AMOh what YouTube critics have wrought.
no just outakes of the movie

SiL

SiL

#2210
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.

https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg

Great Predator movie.

Engineer

Engineer

#2211
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 09:07:20 AM
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 08:28:17 AMPredators aren't a team they're a species of alien...
They aren't capable of having different races like humans?

We've been over this. Do my illustrative examples mean nothing to you?

We don't want to watch movies about the whole species of whatever Predator-species is.
We want to watch the interesting, clever human hunting that they do.
And Feral did not provide that.

After all the examples of Michael Myers sitting and eating, Chicago Bulls, etc...

I give up as well.





Who is "we" exactly?
Because I've been a fan since 1987 and absolutely DO want to see this sort of story telling from this franchise. The scores on rotten tomatoes are decent enough too, so I suspect I'm not in the minority here either...
Naru was genuinely clever, outsmarting the predator better than anyone else had in the previous movies...
I mean, it's ok if you just didn't like the movie though...

I like Naru and I do like the movie, but I wish the Predator acted more like the Predator that I got interested in. If this was my first encounter with the Predator as character, I would not find him interesting at all.

That's fair. And, to go back to my previous remark, it's ok not to like the movie, but that doesn't mean this predator is somehow not a predator due to its behavior (or appearance)...
We know almost nothing about their species... their physical diversity or their cultural/behavioral diversity...

I was just saying this to a friend before. We have hunting laws in America (the US), that most people honor. They honor the laws but that's not the same as honoring their prey. The ones who don't, the ones who break the law, are poachers (bad bloods, if you will). But, those laws are specific to our country. Other countries have different laws; some have no laws at all around hunting...
So, given the diversity in hunting laws/practices between countries, or even individuals, here on earth, why is it so off the wall to think the predators might not all have the same laws, morals, honor codes themselves?
Seems narrow minded to me that they'd all act exactly the same as the jungle hunter imo...

SiL

SiL

#2212
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMjust agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is  the gripe i have with the movie too.

i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.
Yeah please do see the film before criticising, you might actually disagree with me.

Engineer

Engineer

#2213
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.

https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.
I've actually heard good things about this movie... but, still don't see feral as bein no different than this guy. He's still a predator, just different, behaviorally and physically, from what we've seen before. And that's ok even if not everyone likes it...

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#2214
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.

https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.

I don't know it.

Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.

SiL

SiL

#2215
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.

https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.

I don't know it.

Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.
It's 7 years before Predator, stars Kevin Peter Hall as an alien hunting humans.

So all a Predator is, is something that hunts - in the license? So the Aliens in AvP are Predators?

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#2216
That's neat, but like that Italian Alien film, if it's not got the license it does not count.

As for whether Aliens are predators, of course they are, but they are obviously not Predators.

Maybe a decent PredAlien might be.

SiL

SiL

#2217
Great, so Aliens are just any alien that appear in the movies and Predators are anything that hunts.


Engineer

Engineer

#2218
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:26:50 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.

https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.


I don't know it.

Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.
It's 7 years before Predator, stars Kevin Peter Hall as an alien hunting humans.

So all a Predator is, is something that hunts - in the license? So the Aliens in AvP are Predators?
I get what you're saying
I just don't agree with you.
Godzilla is a kaiju; take that away and it's not just some dinosaur all of the sudden.
Plus, I mean, the predator hunts. It's so ingrained in what it is, I don't see how you can just strip that out of the character. Feral... he's different, but he's still a hunter, even if his style of hunting is different from what you're used to thinking about...

SiL

SiL

#2219
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:28:24 AMAs for whether Aliens are predators, of course they are, but they are obviously not Predators.

You said Predators are characterised by hunting. Aliens hunt, so if the only criteria is "something that hunts", they're Predators.

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