Quote from: OpenMaw on Jan 03, 2018, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 03, 2018, 10:22:12 AM
Honestly, I think they just wanted to make an A/P movie and had to deal with the crappy story they had to use. That's the impression I got from chatting to Crom in the last podcast.
They did not help themselves with the nostalgia carpet-bombing they did throughout the movie. Having Brian Tyler basically lift the entire soundtrack of Aliens and Predator.
I mean yeah, the movie would have probably been better from a premise standpoint if they went with "Predator ship crashes in Afghanistan and special forces guys have to fight the aliens and predators." Because it would have at least lent a closer to feel to the spirit of the second AVP comic (Duel? War? I can't remember. The one with the marines on Ryushi.)
A good director can take a treacherous premise and make a good movie out of it. AVP:R had potential to be good. The problem is the Strause bros just wouldn't restrain themselves.
The problem with Prometheus and Covenant is fairly simple. You give Scott a coherent script, and he'll likely give you a coherent movie. Spaihts gave him a fairly coherent, albeit scattershot, script. Lidelof, not so much. To a degree you can blame this on the excised bits in editing, but not in totality.
Exactly, I believe that's the main problem now. He'll make a great movie if he gets a great script. I just worry how much does he influence the writing because that's not his strong side.
The thing that surprised me was that nothing too important was left out from the edit in Covenant (though it'd be nice to see Walter mention how it's dangerous that David hasn't been maintained for 10 years), unlike in Prometheus where the deleted scenes helped the movie IMO. So at least that's getting better now.
This time, a few ideas from the script just weren't filmed or used in Covenant that I believe would have been nice, like the idea of the storm being some type of planetary security, or the lesser needed ideas like Neo's stalking the crew through the forest, or even the short Xeno vs Neo fight, though that could've been cheesy... the best part of that idea would've just been to show the superiority of the Alien for people who asked the logical question: Spores? Then how is the Alien better with it's slower, less stealthy life-cycle? Then the answer would be: Alien is stronger than the Neo.