Started by Corporal Hicks, Dec 25, 2016, 05:06:30 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 07:47:56 PMThe trailer did it's job. There's be ALIENS in this movie. I bitched about the lack of horror and scariness in Prometheus and Ridley just told me that he heard that moaning loud and clear. For me, I want terror and a decent set of tits. Second I want the vastness of Prometheus. The trailer and the unseen production photo leaks missing from the trailer tell me I'm getting all of it.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 06:40:44 PMQuote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:22 PMThe magic is gone. That's the most concise way to put it. I can wait for this on video and not miss anything.Pretty bold claim considering you've seen all of 2 minutes of the film in clip format with no context whatsoever.
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:22 PMThe magic is gone. That's the most concise way to put it. I can wait for this on video and not miss anything.
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:22:05 PMI'm feeling a lot of denial in people defending this trailer. Like it or not, that's your right. But don't try to justify poor production choices, okay?
QuoteMaybe I'm not defending it and actually like it?? Assumption is the mother of all fckups
QuoteLike it or not, that's your right.
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 05:34:19 PMQuote from: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:58 PMQuote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PMQuote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PMALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016. Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. s I consider myself quite an aficionado of horror films... everything from expressionist German horror to Classic Universal and Hammer Studios films... to the classic horror movies of the 60's and 70's. And in my opinion, Alien/Ridley Scott DID make use of existing thriller/horror tropes. These did NOT start with Alien.So am I but we have to look at the date it came out in. The average film-maker or viewer has next to zero access to this in a per-vhs beyond private screenings, or the films being played at a theatre or on TV. Tropes I think more form in the days of VHS and with accessibility to these films. Before that, most of these films were made in complete isolation. They might not have started with Alien, but Alien is one of the last refining stages before they become established tropes. In my mind, the watering down/becoming a overused cliche all has to do with the rise of VHS and horror film in the 1980's. It might have existed before, but many filmmakers would have zero knowledge of it or ability to watch those films. You also have to localize geography quite a bit as well, as screening of international horror films in the 70's we very few and very far between even in massive cities. Even Scott and Dan Obannon have claimed to have never seen "Planet of the Vampires" when ALIEN was made (a claim i do not believe but they still claimed it).I think technology/time frame has more to do with the rise of tropes/cliche than anything else. I'm more likely to go easy on a film that dates before 1980 than I am during the Home Video revolution.
Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:58 PMQuote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PMQuote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PMALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016. Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. s I consider myself quite an aficionado of horror films... everything from expressionist German horror to Classic Universal and Hammer Studios films... to the classic horror movies of the 60's and 70's. And in my opinion, Alien/Ridley Scott DID make use of existing thriller/horror tropes. These did NOT start with Alien.
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PMQuote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PMALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016. Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche.
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PMALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.
Quote from: vortep on Dec 25, 2016, 08:17:19 PMCan some one give and a download link for the trailer in 1080p?
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:33 PMQuoteMaybe I'm not defending it and actually like it?? Assumption is the mother of all fckupsHeyQuoteLike it or not, that's your right.See what I did there?
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:42:14 PMI'm SHOCKED at all the complaining I see on various boards. This was honestly better than I expected, the acting looks fantastic, the cinematography - about which people whine everywhere I look now - honestly looks great to me - dark and gritty but also very beautiful (the shots of the environment of the planet) and that opening scene was tense as hell. Fantastic trailer!