Quote from: Alienseseses on Oct 21, 2007, 01:22:15 AM
And since when do they droop?
Since '
Aliens', actually.
If you watch very carefully, the one rearing up behind Newt has the more tubular versions also 'bend' for a split-second, as the suit raises out of the water. It's so fast that the average viewer doesn't realise, like how Bishop is standing in a hole on the Sulaco, but it's accidentally captured on film, for certain.
QuoteI maintain that the suit you are seeing is tubeless, and that thing is the tail coiled in the air.
Firstly, why would a stunt suit be tubeless? They'd all have the dorsals. Secondly, there are none of the obvious vertebrae seen in the tails.
There are no "stunt tails". The only statement to do with that is of using CGI tails for stuff they can't achieve with practical effects, as in the other film.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 21, 2007, 01:30:50 AM
But they never really wore any armour, or at least very barely, you can not call this armour really.
Even the first wore armour. A lot was exposed, sure, but it still wore some.
It was precisely because the majority of it was exposed to air that adding more armour was a practical idea, when going against Aliens.
QuoteBut to make it realistic is not always the way to go, i´ll take unrealistic or "doesnt make sense" anytime over shitty looking designs that just doesnt fit the characters nature, that would be in this case, very agile, slender shape etc etc.
I disagree that 'cool' = fantastic. If it did, everyone would be lauding the '
Star Wars' prequels as superb cinematic history.
The '
Alien' and '
Predator' films have the similar mass appeal they do for the same reason as the '
Terminator' franchise has: All three main villains seem realistic. They look and act like such things should do. The first Predator acted like a ghost, but the whole point of the film was that it happened to be an alien using advanced technology. Realism was being applied.
Similarly, Dutch's team and Apone's both felt like realistic characters to be found in the military. If you're interested in superficiality, then watch '
Starship Troopers'. It just isn't on nearly the same level.
The problem with the previous Predator designs was mainly two-fold: Firstly, they needed to de-bulk the muscle mass. Secondly, the director did not have them moving like they were previously depicted. They were walking and running more like humans than what they were. There was a superhuman leap, but it was painfully obvious that it was done with wires.
The same also applied to the Aliens, which should have been leaping between things, in a similar acrobatic way.
Note that neither of those elements would be affected by added armour.
A lot of the Predator can be covered and still give a lean outline. It could even be thinned out, if necessary, but it still serves an obvious purpose against things you aim to kill at close-range, which are notorious for spraying acid from the slightest injury they encounter.
That's assuming the Predator wouldn't incur serious physical damage before getting a fatal strike in, of course.
To have Predators walk about virtually naked, with a, "COME ON! I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON!" Mentality does them no favours.
They can do it with humans, because invisibility affords them the ability to strike posses and all the rest of it. Against an opponent not suffering from such a weakness, it's a different story and unless they're stupid, they should knowingly plan ahead for that.
