Quote from: windebieste on Mar 22, 2020, 09:12:15 PM
The Engineer leave David's new world with the colonial survivors aboard his vessel, with the intention of taking them to an undisclosed destination. During the flight, an Alien erupts from the Engineer and the ship crashes on LV-426 with all the human survivors trapped inside the hold of the ship. Every single one of them is eggmorphed. That's a reasonable way to connect these movies.
-Windebieste.
Arnold Böcklin's Isle of the Dead is referenced in the Engineers cathedral. I like to think that the art honored in the movie can give us clues to the sequel. For example in the case of Isle of the Dead, one of the interpretations is that the oarsman it's a representation of Charon, the boatman who ferries souls to the underworld through the waters of the river
Acheron (which is another name for
LV-426) in Greek mythology.
With that in mind, I like to think that the Space Jockey is our ferryman Charon transporting the lost souls of the Covenant crew aboard his spaceship. Eggmorphing can return as a more creepy method in the Alien's lifecycle, with a Gargantuan Ultramorph turning the colonists into Ovomorphs.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Mar 22, 2020, 09:32:54 PM
Although I agree with nearly all of the above hypothesis just let the "ancient aliens" nonsense stay dead, let David, believing itself the creator, discover the LV-426 Derelict exactly as it is far predating any form of humanity. Let the revelation fully unravel the Artificial Intelligence, he's not truly unique as he currently believes, it's all happened before, the "Perfect Organism" combination of organic and synthetic existed before and it's the Alien.
That's probably my favorite hypothetical outcome. Our beloved unreliable narrator being shocked at such a revelation. It would be like in "At the Monuntaing of Madness". David is narcissistic and megalomaniac. I can't think of a better conclusion for his arc
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 23, 2020, 03:58:09 AM
Perhaps a compromise: the Engineers advanced to point that they have a non-linear perception of time (like the "aliens" from Interstellar or the septopods from Arrival) and created the aliens in the ancient past after "seeing" David do it first in their distant future. Try to wrap your minds around that.
Now this is the kind of twists that I like in science fiction. I suppose that beings who perceive time non-linearly have a more omniscient point of view. But it could be more paradoxical: Engineers created the Alien in the past thanks to David's prototype in the future. However, the black goo (which David used to create his Alien) was obtained from the Engineers' Alien. That is to say: The Alien of the Engineers cannot exist without the actions of David and the Alien of David cannot exist without the Alien of the Engineers because the Black Goo comes from there. It seems like a time travel paradox
Quote from: Drukathi on Mar 23, 2020, 08:18:19 PM
I think they should leave the prequel ideas. IMO, it will be better (and will give a new round to the Alien universe) if the third film will be located in the future. After AR. Let David stay on Origae-6 and create-evolve his dreams. And then he will return to exterminate humanity with the creatures of his ultimate prefect dreams - with ultramorphs.
Although it is not my favorite hypothetical setting, I find it interesting. I've even thought about David meeting Ripley 8. Actually in another
recent thread, and following the OP's thoughts, I have speculated that Giger's land might be in the future and not in the ancient past. The OP mentions that Giger's art is a vision of the future and not of the past. I read elsewhere that nuclear weapons and war served as inspiration. With that in mind, I can portrait in my mind lifeforms that evolved to become biomechanical in nature, through bizarre sexual reproduction mechanism, in order to survive a hostile environment. Giger's Übermensch so to speak