"Enter Vent" and "Transition" as an Alien

[yaji]

I'm not sure anymore if I want to buy this game...

[vess]

The alien can see through walls. There will be no problem with the animation unless you choose to not look for an enemy on the other side ahead of time. The entering system is designed for entering a vent from a full speed retreat. If you pop out of a vent and failed to notice there was a marine looking at the vent before you came out, then the marine deserves the easy kill.

[Xenodog]

All true, I guess.
But like I said, hopefully they'll modify it somehow.

[Private W Hudson]

I'm not sure anymore if I want to buy this game...

You can't resist stop lying

[EC jay]

can we get S.Y.L. in here?
since we're drawing conclusions from a gameplayvid we saw I doubt clearing this up would break any NDA 
I'd really like this cleared up

[VEF214]

The alien can see through walls. There will be no problem with the animation unless you choose to not look for an enemy on the other side ahead of time. The entering system is designed for entering a vent from a full speed retreat. If you pop out of a vent and failed to notice there was a marine looking at the vent before you came out, then the marine deserves the easy kill.

I'm concerned about getting shot and killed while the animation is taking place for entering or even exiting a vent. That's just me of course.

[kvon17]

Every other game, when you climb/enter stuff, you can be killed, and you never moan about that.

Walking through vent opening isn't like climbing though... its more like walking
through some open doorway...

Imagine what it would be like... You come to a door... Its open... You try to
to walk through but you are stopped by and invisible barrier... and a message
pops up on your screen... "Press (X) to walk through the open doorway"...

You hit X... Tadaa... You get "cinematic" where you walk through the door
(which maybe last for about a second..) and once your through you may
continue playing as "usual"...

Are you saying you shouldn't be allowed to be killed when walking through a doorway or opening a door?

Marines can be killed while healing and setting up sentries,
Predators can be killed while healing and restoring power,
Aliens can be killed while headbiting to heal and entering vents.

[MadRobert]

can we get S.Y.L. in here?
since we're drawing conclusions from a gameplayvid we saw I doubt clearing this up would break any NDA 
I'd really like this cleared up

i dont think he is going to say much even if you ask nicely.

[VEF214]

Every other game, when you climb/enter stuff, you can be killed, and you never moan about that.

Walking through vent opening isn't like climbing though... its more like walking
through some open doorway...

Imagine what it would be like... You come to a door... Its open... You try to
to walk through but you are stopped by and invisible barrier... and a message
pops up on your screen... "Press (X) to walk through the open doorway"...

You hit X... Tadaa... You get "cinematic" where you walk through the door
(which maybe last for about a second..) and once your through you may
continue playing as "usual"...

Are you saying you shouldn't be allowed to be killed when walking through a doorway or opening a door?

Marines can be killed while healing and setting up sentries,
Predators can be killed while healing and restoring power,
Aliens can be killed while headbiting to heal and entering vents.

It's not the same thing though.

[EC jay]

Are you saying you shouldn't be allowed to be killed when walking through a doorway or opening a door?

Marines can be killed while healing and setting up sentries,
Predators can be killed while healing and restoring power,
Aliens can be killed while headbiting to heal and entering vents.

sorry, but this just makes no sense at all
are you honestly comparing walking through a door to setting up a turret?
AJL wasn't saying you shouldn't be able to get shot when going through a door

man, I really hope there's mod tools coming for this game
then someone can remove the invisible vent walls for aliens
then add in invisible walls in every door for marines and preds to walk through and make it so that every time they do, they're stuck in the doorway for a few seconds with a neon sign above their head saying "shoot me"

[Private W Hudson]

Anyone think maybe they have a reason for doing all these things, and they're not just trying to piss you off?

And the reason is not to make it more console friendly, plenty of games play fine on the console without transition buttons and such.

Are you 12?, i mean seriously were on about how it will effect the PC gamers it will be so annoying i hope there is a option to change that damn thing. I like the AVP1, AVP2, Classic ways thank you very much. Ofcourse it's console friendly and if it's included in the PC release then we know it's been ported copy and paste ftw?

Nope, not 12 (Not really sure how anything in the post you indicated signaled a young age, but I guess when you have to scrounge for an original insult you got to work with whatever comes to mind quickest for you). 

If you had been paying attention to the news, they've said every system has been built from the ground up.  No ports.  And while they said they are focusing on the console versions, they are all avid PC gamers.

This means that for some reason, they thought the best option for going into a vent was to have a transitional button pop up when you are near. 

Now there is no reason for this to have come from consoles, because a joystick doesn't limit your ability to get into a vent opening.  Anyone who says otherwise is a PC fanboy who doesn't play with a controller.  It wouldn't make any sense.

So, if we look at all that, they must have made this setup for the reason that it benefits the gameplay in some way that we can't fully realize because we haven't PLAYED THE DAMN THING.

Seriously never makes sense... you cut me deep dawg.

Let golic sum it up for ya

[Giger_Incubator]

Are you saying you shouldn't be allowed to be killed when walking through a doorway or opening a door?

Marines can be killed while healing and setting up sentries,
Predators can be killed while healing and restoring power,
Aliens can be killed while headbiting to heal and entering vents.

sorry, but this just makes no sense at all
are you honestly comparing walking through a door to setting up a turret?
AJL wasn't saying you shouldn't be able to get shot when going through a door

man, I really hope there's mod tools coming for this game
then someone can remove the invisible vent walls for aliens
then add in invisible walls in every door for marines and preds to walk through and make it so that every time they do, they're stuck in the doorway for a few seconds with a neon sign above their head saying "shoot me"

Are you that bad of a player that when you know you're coming up to a vent you want to go through, after going through hundreds before it, you're not going to be able to hit A fast enough that its fluid.

Cause from the looks of it, the animation is just as fast as if you did just go through it normal.

So the problem is you're not very good at playing games right?

[AJL]

I'm concerned about getting shot and killed while the animation is taking place for entering or even exiting a vent. That's just me of course.

I am not... not really... the animations seem to be pretty short/quick...

I am more concerned about the destination... It moves you from one side
of the opening to the other but you don't get to choose where exactly
you endup...

(When moving form biger room into that small vent that propably doesn't
make any difference but when coming out from the vent into the biger
room that is another matter...)

[EC jay]

Are you that bad of a player that when you know you're coming up to a vent you want to go through, after going through hundreds before it, you're not going to be able to hit A fast enough that its fluid.

Cause from the looks of it, the animation is just as fast as if you did just go through it normal.

So the problem is you're not very good at playing games right?

hahahaha, oh wow
if only you played against me 
no, that's not what I'm saying, at all
AJL's post sum it up pretty nicely what I'm worried about
and that's having LESS control
as I said before, it may be good for beginning players that are still learning how to play alien, but NOT for experienced players

your posts make me wonder if you've ever played avp tbh (alien that is)

[kvon17]

Are you saying you shouldn't be allowed to be killed when walking through a doorway or opening a door?

Marines can be killed while healing and setting up sentries,
Predators can be killed while healing and restoring power,
Aliens can be killed while headbiting to heal and entering vents.

sorry, but this just makes no sense at all
are you honestly comparing walking through a door to setting up a turret?
AJL wasn't saying you shouldn't be able to get shot when going through a door

man, I really hope there's mod tools coming for this game
then someone can remove the invisible vent walls for aliens
then add in invisible walls in every door for marines and preds to walk through and make it so that every time they do, they're stuck in the doorway for a few seconds with a neon sign above their head saying "shoot me"

No. AJL compared getting killed while going into vents to getting killed while going through a random door.

The rest of my post was unrelated to that.