Bishop in Alien 3 - Human or Android?

[HuDaFuK]

No, they weren't trying to make it ambiguous.

What makes you think that? The fact they cut out the shots that make it most clear he is human seems to imply they were going for ambiguity. Otherwise why cut it out? it was like 5 seconds of footage, it wasn't exactly a lengthy scene dropped to speed things up. It could quite easily have stayed. But they removed it.

[SiL]

Gore, possibly. The shots that make it clearest he's human are also the most explicit of his head wound. It may only be a few seconds, but seconds of gore trimmed here and there add up to ratings boards. The rest of the movie was also toned down to secure an R rating.

[HuDaFuK]

Gore, possibly.

I don't remember the "I'm not a droid!" bit being particularly bloody.

[FiorinaFury161]

Gore, possibly. The shots that make it clearest he's human are also the most explicit of his head wound. It may only be a few seconds, but seconds of gore trimmed here and there add up to ratings boards. The rest of the movie was also toned down to secure an R rating.

So the Assembly Cut would be a, um, Super R rating?

[Valaquen]

No, they weren't trying to make it ambiguous.

What makes you think that? The fact they cut out the shots that make it most clear he is human seems to imply they were going for ambiguity. Otherwise why cut it out? it was like 5 seconds of footage, it wasn't exactly a lengthy scene dropped to speed things up. It could quite easily have stayed. But they removed it.

I don't think Fox gave a f**k, they just wanted to trim (read: "hack") the movie into bits without regard for the filmmakers' intentions.

[HuDaFuK]

I don't think Fox gave a f**k, they just wanted to trim (read: "hack") the movie into bits without regard for the filmmakers' intentions.

Maybe. It just seems like very specific removals. Him screaming that he isn't a droid and the one shot that clearly shows gushing red blood from his head wound.

[SiL]

I don't remember the "I'm not a droid!" bit being particularly bloody.

Maybe. It just seems like very specific removals. Him screaming that he isn't a droid and the one shot that clearly shows gushing red blood from his head wound.

Um.

[SM]

Yeah.  Couple of tasty blood spurts in that shot.

I dunno if that's the reason, but it's entirely possible.

[SiL]

I wouldn't be surprised. Ratings boards are usually pretty picky about graphic head wounds.

[Elmazalman]

I wouldn't be surprised. Ratings boards are usually pretty picky about graphic head wounds.

The ratings boards are hit and miss when it comes to carnage.The chestburster through the head in AR was also over the top.

[SM]

That was five years down the track, the actual burst shot was about a second, and the sebsequent shots were CU's on the burster rather than the head it was sticking out of.

[Elmazalman]

Still nasty stuff.

[SM]

Indubitably.

[HuDaFuK]

Yeah.  Couple of tasty blood spurts in that shot.

Oh, was that in the same shot? Sorry, I haven't seen the film for a while, I remembered the head wound and the shouting to be different shots.

[DoomRulz]

Gushing blood or not, we still see him bleed in the theatrical cut. So, human, end of.