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Started by DoomRulz, Nov 30, 2012, 03:53:46 AM

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DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#11805
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 28, 2015, 01:34:37 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 27, 2015, 07:27:10 PM
I really hope you're not implying corruption is something that only affect capitalist democracies because if you are, every communist leader throughout history is currently holding on line one and would like to have a word with you.

I'm not. However, everybody living in the West is aware of the evils that come with communism. I'm just making the point that capitalism is just as bad. And I'm no supporter of communism, I just believe that some aspects of socialism should be integrated into the U.S., where I live.

Capitalism is the lesser of the two evils. I will agree that some socialism is a good thing. I support a welfare system however I also think that there needs to be massive checks and balances to ensure no one abuses it.

Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 28, 2015, 01:34:37 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 27, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
Yeah, exactly. The only difference though (at least generally speaking) is that a corrupt democracy still allows for elections. A communist government won't so there's no hope of change, short of a revolution.

But what's the point of elections if they don't do anything? If all the political parties in a capitalist democracy are subservient to the same corporations, having elections isn't going to produce a change. You'd still need a revolution. And yes, I do believe at least in the United States, that the majority of the politicians are under the thumb of one corporation or another.

Change needs to come from the people. Revolution doesn't need to be bloody. For instance, here in Canada, we have the option of what's called declining your vote. That is, when you go to the polls, you write decline across your ballot and what you do in effect is vote for none of the above. By law, they have to be counted. If the majority of the people did that, it would send a pretty clear message to our politicians that we've had enough of their shit and want real change.

PVTDukeMorrison

PVTDukeMorrison

#11806
Yeah but when only 40% of your countrymen actually go out and vote I highly doubt the politicians would care if a few people declined their votes

The PredBen

The PredBen

#11807
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 28, 2015, 02:32:02 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 28, 2015, 01:34:37 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 27, 2015, 07:27:10 PM
I really hope you're not implying corruption is something that only affect capitalist democracies because if you are, every communist leader throughout history is currently holding on line one and would like to have a word with you.

I'm not. However, everybody living in the West is aware of the evils that come with communism. I'm just making the point that capitalism is just as bad. And I'm no supporter of communism, I just believe that some aspects of socialism should be integrated into the U.S., where I live.

Capitalism is the lesser of the two evils. I will agree that some socialism is a good thing. I support a welfare system however I also think that there needs to be massive checks and balances to ensure no one abuses it.

Quote from: The PredBen on Sep 28, 2015, 01:34:37 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 27, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
Yeah, exactly. The only difference though (at least generally speaking) is that a corrupt democracy still allows for elections. A communist government won't so there's no hope of change, short of a revolution.

But what's the point of elections if they don't do anything? If all the political parties in a capitalist democracy are subservient to the same corporations, having elections isn't going to produce a change. You'd still need a revolution. And yes, I do believe at least in the United States, that the majority of the politicians are under the thumb of one corporation or another.

Change needs to come from the people. Revolution doesn't need to be bloody. For instance, here in Canada, we have the option of what's called declining your vote. That is, when you go to the polls, you write decline across your ballot and what you do in effect is vote for none of the above. By law, they have to be counted. If the majority of the people did that, it would send a pretty clear message to our politicians that we've had enough of their shit and want real change.

Wow, I wish the U.S. had a "declining your vote" option, but I don't believe we do. And I do agree that a social welfare net can be abused, certainly it has before. However, people need to keep in mind that the super rich often have their own interests at heart, and many (not all) of them seem to support a society where the rich get richer and the rest become/stay poor. With regard to politics in many capitalist democracies, you need a lot of money to run for office. And if you aren't independently wealthy, you often need funding, and often times the people/entities that give you your funding are part of the super rich. And once you are funded by them, you're more or less in their pocket. And that means you now work for them, not the people who voted you into office.

Sabby

Sabby

#11808
Not sure if it's been brought up already, but...

http://www.polygon.com/2015/9/25/9399169/united-nations-women-cyber-violence-anita-sarkeesian-zoe-quinn

Unsurprisingly, the comments are disabled. I'm just guna go right ahead and say it. If you call yourself a 'survivor' of cyber violence, you're probably not worth listening to.

Bat Chain Puller

Bat Chain Puller

#11809
The term cyber-violence is misleading. Lets stick with calling it what it is. Cyber-bullying (or harassment.)

That is, until the day I can zip my fist into an email attachment that magically opens itself and punches the recipient until they are rendered unconscious. Let me know when that's available.

Sabby

Sabby

#11810
Yeah, but they actually used that wording, at least according to Polygon. Anita is a 'survivor of cyber violence'.

DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#11811
Quote from: Sabby on Sep 28, 2015, 09:29:48 AM
Not sure if it's been brought up already, but...

http://www.polygon.com/2015/9/25/9399169/united-nations-women-cyber-violence-anita-sarkeesian-zoe-quinn

Unsurprisingly, the comments are disabled. I'm just guna go right ahead and say it. If you call yourself a 'survivor' of cyber violence, you're probably not worth listening to.

Kids are dying in Syria. But, then again, the UN has always been a bit of a joke.

Deathbearer

Deathbearer

#11812
Quote from: Sabby on Sep 28, 2015, 06:02:46 PM
Yeah, but they actually used that wording, at least according to Polygon. Anita is a 'survivor of cyber violence'.

f**king Anita. Nothing more than a professional victim. It baffles me that people are dumb enough to give her money

The PredBen

The PredBen

#11813
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 28, 2015, 06:12:52 PM
Quote from: Sabby on Sep 28, 2015, 09:29:48 AM
Not sure if it's been brought up already, but...

http://www.polygon.com/2015/9/25/9399169/united-nations-women-cyber-violence-anita-sarkeesian-zoe-quinn

Unsurprisingly, the comments are disabled. I'm just guna go right ahead and say it. If you call yourself a 'survivor' of cyber violence, you're probably not worth listening to.

Kids are dying in Syria. But, then again, the UN has always been a bit of a joke.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 28, 2015, 06:12:52 PM
Quote from: Sabby on Sep 28, 2015, 09:29:48 AM
Not sure if it's been brought up already, but...

http://www.polygon.com/2015/9/25/9399169/united-nations-women-cyber-violence-anita-sarkeesian-zoe-quinn

Unsurprisingly, the comments are disabled. I'm just guna go right ahead and say it. If you call yourself a 'survivor' of cyber violence, you're probably not worth listening to.

Kids are dying in Syria. But, then again, the UN has always been a bit of a joke.

Agreed.

KiramidHead

KiramidHead

#11814
Yeah, the United "won't/can't do shit without a unanimous vote" Nations.

Topazora

Topazora

#11815
Personally, I'm more worried about what they're asking for a solution than her crying out because she's being virtually harassed.  Cyberbullying is a huge problem, and its bad regardless of who you are.  But demanding legislation?  She wants facebook to regulate what's being posted on their site.  What she wants is censorship.  Who decides what's considered demeaning?  There are things that you can say that are clearly, w/o a doubt, demeaning.  But people post stuff that gets taken the wrong way all the time.  No one should have to have anxiety for posting their opinion, b/c repercussions are now a lot more serious.
If her life is truly in danger, and she could very well be, that's why we have law enforcement that protect potential victims if they feel threatened.  That's what they're for.  People are always being stalked, harassed and abused, its a constant problem.

Corporal Hicks


DoomRulz

DoomRulz

#11817
Quote from: Topazora on Sep 29, 2015, 02:13:07 AM
If her life is truly in danger, and she could very well be, that's why we have law enforcement that protect potential victims if they feel threatened.  That's what they're for.  People are always being stalked, harassed and abused, its a constant problem.

I seriously doubt it is. We have yet to hear of any federal investigations into these so-called threats.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#11818
One, yay we found flowing water on our own back porch. Meaning liquid water on any number of moons within the solar system is very likely. That's how I read the news. :)

Second, you don't have to be hit to be the victim of violence. She is taking her claim too far though. Still what level of violence could this be construed as? Aggravated assault in the 4th? I think that is threatening or something...

Gilfryd

Gilfryd

#11819
When you're being doxed, that's dangerous.

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