ms 2.3 impressions

[Xhan]

That's a shit argument and you know it, second of all the "greater community" wasn't aware of the "improvements" until they got in game.


Thirdly you're telling me this can't be done:

[D] MS 2.X.X Vanilla AvP2 DeathMatch
[D] MS 2.X.X Vanilla AvP2 Team DeathMatch
[D] MS 2.X.X Vanilla AvP2 LifeCycle
[D] Rommie's Balance Mod Team DeathMatch
[D] Rommie's Balance Mod All Weapons
[D]Russian Bear Mod TDM
[D]Russian Bear Mod WTF Free For All
[D] SG-2 TDM
[D] SG-2 Crucible of Darwin + UMP 2016
[D] SG-2 LifeCycle
[D] SG-2 Vanilla UMP 2016

The current situation right now is NOT a democracy, not even kinda.

[JP]

Would you kindly tell us what are the gameplay diffferences btween 2.3 and vanilla avp?

I see a lot of talk here but not a single person has given an example yet.

[Lucifero]

Would you kindly tell us what are the gameplay diffferences btween 2.3 and vanilla avp?

I see a lot of talk here but not a single person has given an example yet.

JP  I like the settings that made by Rommie inside his test server.
most reflects the original style of the game.
compared to TBBC server (apart sounds) regeneration of alien life for exemple .
if you play as alien It is so high that eating dead bodies do not need.
the speed of the characters are identical yes ,
but one has the feeling that time passes more quickly.
in short the game play seems faster in multiplayer than  in a LAN in game ranger.
I repeat it is just a feeling.
want a exemple?
my favorite character alien class "runner".
yes animation are better , nice work!
speed is same ,punce is same. nice work!
but I sometimes have the feeling that slide on some surfaces where previously I could climb.
in short, I dot like the feeling of not having full control of my 4 legged.

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That's a shit argument and you know it, second of all the "greater community" wasn't aware of the "improvements" until they got in game.


Thirdly you're telling me this can't be done:

[D] MS 2.X.X Vanilla AvP2 DeathMatch
[D] MS 2.X.X Vanilla AvP2 Team DeathMatch
[D] MS 2.X.X Vanilla AvP2 LifeCycle
[D] Rommie's Balance Mod Team DeathMatch
[D] Rommie's Balance Mod All Weapons
[D]Russian Bear Mod TDM
[D]Russian Bear Mod WTF Free For All
[D] SG-2 TDM
[D] SG-2 Crucible of Darwin + UMP 2016
[D] SG-2 LifeCycle
[D] SG-2 Vanilla UMP 2016

The current situation right now is NOT a democracy, not even kinda.

forget about democracy.
Avp2 Never Been to democracy! and never will be!

[Olde]

Just so we're all on the same page, here's the changelog.

History:
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- from 2.3.1
      - fixed a crash when using Steam
      - added support for the Steam overlay

- from 2.3
      - fixed a crash in the text rendering system
      - fixed a bug that caused the pulse rifle to block
      - the message editor and console are close when disconnected from the server

- from 2.2
      - fixed the blowtorch light position
      - fixed some displays not refreshing when a player leaves
      - fixed some 2D performance issues on Windows 10
      - significantly improved overall fps
      - fixed some afterimages showing up when using anti-aliasing
      - added a new server controlled text drawing system for additional game info
      - added borderless window mode (add "+borderless 1" to your command line)
      - fixed an issue with dgVoodoo that breaks mouse input after losing focus
      - removed 16 bit display modes to accomodate Windows 10 players
      - the renderer will now stay active in windowed mode
      - changed how text is rendered (again)
      - fixed the camera fov changing in the death camera
      - fixed the facehug overlay not fully covering the screen on widescreen aspect ratios
      - fixed the zoom not resetting after dying or when the round ends
      - fixed a bug that caused the server list to lock up after canceling a lan query
      - recent messages can now be edited
      - the numpad keys can now be used when typing a message
      - clipboard text can now be pasted using ctrl+v
      - added a console, opened with the tilde key (view readme_console.txt for a list of commands)
      - moved the showfps command to the console
      - the framelimit can now be changed (can be changed through the console, defaults to 120)
      - fixed a bug that enabled movement while typing after a new world has loaded
      - locked single player framerate at 60 to prevent dialog skipping
      - fixed a bug that caused the hud to disappear after changing resolution
      - reduced some packet loss by doubling the send and receive buffers
      - added all files of version 1.0.9.6 to the patch
      - removed the cd key menu item
      - fixed the Runner jump animation
      - added kicked and banned disconnect messages
      - added various server controlled fixes for exploits
      - players can now enter observe mode from spawn protection on supported servers
      - added support for international keyboards
      - fixed a bug that caused the game timer to become inaccurate after some time
      - fixed an issue that caused a flickering cursor when using dgVoodoo
      - the frame rate in the menu no longer exceeds the frame limit
      - screenshots are now saved to "My Documents\My Games\Aliens vs. Predator 2" (path is visible in the console)
      - added vsync to the display menu
      - added a new command (splashbypass) to the console to skip the title screen
      - the game window now has the correct size in windowed mode
      - the game window is now positioned in the center of the screen in windowed mode
      - added anisotropic filtering to the custom performance menu
      - fixed some bugs caused by switching to a Predator vision while stunned
      - added a new command (flashfix) to the console. view readme_console.txt for more info
      - added a new command (fullscreenrender) to the console. view readme_console.txt for more info
      - the game now uses a smaller font on low resolutions
      - removed dm_brokendream
      - added dm_drydock by Windebieste
      - added evac_nostromo by JP54
      - included a new dedicated server (see readme_server.txt)

- from 2.1
      - fixed some corrupt files
      - improved 2D rendering performance
      - fixed ClearType messing up fonts
      - added suk-hadleyshope by Imp Hunter

- from 2.0
      - fixed an issue that caused some servers to disappear from the list
      - fixed a bug that allowed players to shoot through walls in some cases
      - fixed a minor bug in the new hit detection
      - fixed various exploitable bugs
      - added an automatic update downloader
      - faster server list download
      - the server list is more responsive while querying servers
      - fixed a security vulnerability in the server browser
      - fixed the version filter
      - added a voting menu accessible with the F4 button on servers that support it
      - players can now switch team while waiting for a new round in Evac and Overrun games
      - fixed a bug that prevented players from switching team in freefly mode
      - fixed a bug that caused some multi vector weapons to stray unusually far from their path
      - fixed sniper rapid fire
      - added evac_moria by JP54
      - added dm_temple by JP54

- from 1.5.4
      - new master server client
      - added a framelimiter
      - improved fonts at higher resolutions
      - fixed ghost shots
      - improved the new netcode
      - improved the old netcode
      - native support for widescreen resolutions
      - more thorough anticheat functionality
      - players can send server commands using the / (slash) key
      - added scoreboards for CTF and Domination gametypes
      - added a command to show framerate, <client> showfps
      - added a new multiplayer map by JP54, dm_storageyard

- from 1.5.3
      - replaced the ms_client dll, fixing some issues on newer operating systems
      - faster list updating
      - more accurate pings in the list
      - fixed some servers only showing 1 player on the advanced info page
      - removed the auto update screen when searching for servers
      - included a cracked avp2.exe

- from 1.5.2
      - added the Primal Hunt map pack and the custom map Broken Dream

- from 1.5.1
      - fixed crashes from changing classes in games such as Hunt or Survivor

- from 1.5
      - improvements made

- from 1.4
      - the server list is now retrieved from gamespy
      - fixed the unique player ID algorithm

- from 1.3
      - caching of server list on the client side (contributed by AJL)
      - advanced server information (list of players names, game settings etc.)
      - sorting the list of servers by ping, server name, player count, map name
        and game mode
      - local ban mechanism, based on unique hardware ID
      - server ban command (ex: <srv>ban 1, or <srv>ban Herr_Alien) to control
        the local ban
      - improved netcode. Controlled by a toggle server side option

- from 1.2.3
      - deploy the Bunny server mod as dedicated server
      - improved server update mechanism: all servers now update at 10 minutes or
        when the map or player count changes.

- from 1.2:
      - changed smsever.txt to point to the new master server
      - changed the ms_client.dll to fix crashes from 1.2.2

- from 1.1:
      - compatible with AvP2 Fortress (no more crashes when searching for a server)
      - faster server list retrieval
      - better ping values in the server list
      - improved server updating
      - update utility

- from 1.0: eliminated random crashes when people were trying to find a game
            (NULL pointer dereferencing)

I see nothing on the list changed from 2.2 to 2.3.2 in terms of gameplay, but I guess what's more important is what Lucy feels over the facts.

[Randomizer]

Is Lucy meant to be an endearment on Lucifer's nickname? 

[Olde]

Actually, on Lucifero's.

[Lucifero]

Is Lucy meant to be an endearment on Lucifer's nickname? 

my nick in game is Lucifer
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970414196/
in italian Lucifero.
in truth only  friends called me Luci or Lu



HELL WIKY
Dianus o Lucifero è un dio della Vecchia Religione, fratello, figlio e consorte della dea Diana, Signore della Luce e del Mattino.
Lucifero, o Lucifer è l'antico nome di una divinità romana, identificata con il greco "Eosforo" (torcia di Eos, o Aurora), e con la Stella del mattino. Solo successivamente venne associato con Satana.
Dianus Lucifero è conosciuto anche come Dis (Kern) nell'aspetto di dio della morte e dell'aldilà, e come Lupercus nell'aspetto di "Figlio della Promessa", portatore di speranza e Luce.

traslated
Dianus or Lucifero is a god of the Old Religion, brother, son and husband of the goddess Diana, Lord of Light and the Morning.
Lucifero, or Lucifer is the ancient name of a Roman god, identified with the greek "Eosforo" (Eos torch, or Aurora), and the Morning Star. Only later he became associated with Satan.
Dianus Lucifer is also known as Dis (Kern) in the appearance of the god of death and the afterlife, and how Lupercus appearance of "Son of Promise," bearer of hope and light.

[JP]

What a long readme. I still cant see any gameplay changes there. Perhaps someone could enlighten me.

but I guess what's more important is what Lucy feels over the facts.

Couldn't have said it better myself

HELL WIKY
Dianus o Lucifero è un dio della Vecchia Religione, fratello, figlio e consorte della dea Diana, Signore della Luce e del Mattino.
Lucifero, o Lucifer è l'antico nome di una divinità romana, identificata con il greco "Eosforo" (torcia di Eos, o Aurora), e con la Stella del mattino. Solo successivamente venne associato con Satana.
Dianus Lucifero è conosciuto anche come Dis (Kern) nell'aspetto di dio della morte e dell'aldilà, e come Lupercus nell'aspetto di "Figlio della Promessa", portatore di speranza e Luce.

traslated
Dianus or Lucifero is a god of the Old Religion, brother, son and husband of the goddess Diana, Lord of Light and the Morning.
Lucifero, or Lucifer is the ancient name of a Roman god, identified with the greek "Eosforo" (Eos torch, or Aurora), and the Morning Star. Only later he became associated with Satan.
Dianus Lucifer is also known as Dis (Kern) in the appearance of the god of death and the afterlife, and how Lupercus appearance of "Son of Promise," bearer of hope and light.

Worst spammer in avp

[Lucifero]

@JP 

I hope that future MS 2.3 or 2.2 official bring order to this chaos.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=52428.30

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he wanted to be a flag of peace and not of war

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but I guess what's more important is what Lucy feels over the facts.

I'm not sure that you have understood me @Olde

[Le Celticant]

What a long readme. I still cant see any gameplay changes there. Perhaps someone could enlighten me.

Trusting a readme is like trusting television
One of the key features is the ability to unlock all weapons.
Wouldn't bother me if, it wouldn't be allowed on a almost all server.

[Olde]

@Le Celticant: I don't think that's an attribute-changing aspect, that's a server-side preference.

Though this isn't a gameplay-changing aspect either, I'm far more concerned about this disturbing message:



Didn't see "can no longer host games that are not dedicated servers" in the readme. I guess Le Celticant was right.

By the way, in case you're wondering why I don't just start a dedicated server, the new MSP's dedicated server function doesn't allow you to be hosting the dedicated server and to connect to it as a player. So I guess if you don't have a spare computer to run the server, you can't start your own game. Wow. Just wow. "Either play with us or don't play at all."

[Le Celticant]

@Olde: It's still a modification, not major but it can changes quite a bit since the original game was designed to have either class system or pickup weapons making it both a teamwork and a challenge for the players. Now you have full instant access to everything at your fingertips.
I mean, if you go this way, why not give the Runner the Predalien pounce and the Praetorian health... 

the new MSP's dedicated server function doesn't allow you to be hosting the dedicated server and to connect to it as a player

That is wrong, I've just created a dedicated server, it shows right on tbbc website server list, it shows in game and I was able to join it and play it.
What can sometimes happen due to router is that your server won't show inside the game and you'll have to enter the IP manually. But there's no problem at all to join your own server.

Why would they remove non dedicated though ? I don't get it 

[Olde]

Maybe I need to forward my ports again. Never had to do that before. Whatever, the game sucks even more now.

[Lucifero]

Blatant bump of a 5 month old dead thread by posting unrelated spam.

the number 5 or in latin V


AvPGalaxy Forums » Games » Alien-Predator Games » AvP2 » Topic:  Official Master Server Patch Website

@Olde the topic is ms 2.3 impressions

im curios to know your vote

[JP]

Why would they remove non dedicated though ? I don't get it

Because the vanilla server app was so broken that it became basically useless. Now you have a fully working server app without having to go for Rommies mod or another modded app.