Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 30, 2016, 10:47:27 PM
*Shape of the Covenant ship. Seriously?
Still need to listen to this episode, but like Hicks said, we recorded it super-late!
If it was me, I think I was just making an observation about how it should look like it was carrying infrastructure, but I think Hicks pointed out a possible reason for that. It's pretty trivial. Sorry if it came across as more meaningful than that!
Quote*Lack of protective suits on Paradise. They will address that for sure. If not, then look at Star Trek or Star Wars.
Totally legitimate concern, precisely because '
Prometheus' did
not address it in anything other than a schoolboy fantasy manner: Holloway, who's not just a scientist, but
surrounded by his peers, decides he wants to remove his helmet just beause he
can. Then not only did he do this, but all the others did, too - including Shaw, who was the main one warning him not to.
Being as this was one of the major criticisms of this film's predecessor, yes, the possibility of this being a pattern is worrying, because if it
is, it indicates Scott really hasn't bothered to take note of his previous film's criticisms.
'
Star Trek' is relevant, precisely because that's the very portrayal of the future which the '
Alien' films were always set in contrast against. They felt more grounded. '
Star Trek' had transport space magic which could just 'beam-clean' any pathogens out of you. Stepping out of a dropship doesn't have that luxury... These characters should know better and the trailer even has one of the film's own characters point this out: "We don't know what the f**k's out there!"
Not unlike Shaw warning Holloway and doing the same thing, herself, no?
This is the biggest concern: Has Scott bothered to acknowledge the flaws of '
Prometheus and improve upon them or will this be more of the same? Will we get something where characters act just as idiotically as those of 2012 did? If there's one thing '
Prometheus' got it in the neck for, it was how moronic all the crew of 'experts' were.
I honestly hope this won't be a repeat performance of that! But one can't help but take notice of 'red flag' moments... It's not like there aren't inventive ways to tear through a protective suit and infect an exploring character.
Quote*Backburster issue. Quote from the podcast: It's not the most logical place for thing to rip out off. Why not? Neomorph is not a Xenomorph. Besides, let's be honest: it's utterly impossible for foreign body to grow inside you without earliest symptoms which means that chestburster scene in Alien is impossible because Kane would have known long before that something was going on. It's scientifically inaccurate. Do I care? Of course not. It's sci-fi movie.
I think I brought that up, yeah, but also said we don't know the full context. Ribs seem like they'd be easier to crack an exit point out of than ripping apart an entire spinal column, sure. I also speculated that maybe the reson is that the guy's spine, itself, has mutated into something which is ripping free. Who knows? We'll have to wait and see what happens.
Quote*Tempo of the song in the trailer.
Think that was me, again.
I got what it was trying to do, but it honestly felt too fantasy-like and graceful. Hicks felt differently! The fan-made recut uses the '
Prometheus' trailer music and I honestly feel that was infinitely better for tempo. Compare them both and see which one puts you in the mood better.
QuoteAnd at the end: you guys are obsessed about Neill Blomkamp's Alien project like it's gonna be great by definition . You might be disappointed when it turns out that Covenant's gonna be better than Alien 3.2. It's just my feeling.
I plead innocent!
That was me thinking up a general talking point: How do we feel the
fandom will respond if this is ultimately received like '
Prometheus' largely was? Not which one we might personally prefer. We can't judge that. It's just a hypothetical. Sometimes it's interesting to just debate how the fans, themselves, might look at and react to stuff.
