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i would sum up shaw as being an agnostic. . She does not believe in a specific god but in a higher force or higher being.. . Or she has spiritual beliefs. . Were as hollaway was an atheist. . Well thats how i would summon up their beliefs. .

i once read in an interview that scott himself claims to be a devout agnostic. . But then in another interview he claimed to be an atheist. . So i am not entirely sure. . Shaw has spiritual beliefs, but no specific religion. . Thats my understanding of agnostic. .i might be wrong. .

[SM]

A crucifix is pretty specific.

[Chris!(($$))!]

The search for God is a major theme in Prometheus.

If we assume that the Engineers had a hand in creating us humans, the question is then are they our God(s) or did God(s) allow the Engineer to create us or provided the means. Is God(s) acting through the Engineers the same as God creating us?

Shaw is most definitely a Christian. She probably believes in an ancient alien theory of some sort that a sentient being from another planet thousands of years ago planted the seeds and then stood by to grow the seeds to make sure that humans came about. Would that not be close enough to the biblical Judeo/Christian/Muslim God?

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. .she has her own personal religious beliefs. . The cross is a reminder of that and a connection to her father. . I doubt your typical christian is gonna embrace the idea of engineers and neither your typical atheist. . .she is very open minded about religion. .i saw her as a scientist who hung on the speritual ideas. . Christians claim to know exactly were we come from and who and what god is. . Thats not what i got from shaw. .she was looking for answers. . Their was no blind faith. .

[Darth Vile]

My reading of Prometheus (or the Shaw element) was that it was about how faith/beliefs can get tested... and how scientific discovery can in fact affirm and strengthen those faiths/beliefs rather than undermine them. It's circular...

[oduodu]

i would sum up shaw as being an agnostic. . She does not believe in a specific god but in a higher force or higher being.. . Or she has spiritual beliefs. . Were as hollaway was an atheist. . Well thats how i would summon up their beliefs. .

i once read in an interview that scott himself claims to be a devout agnostic. . But then in another interview he claimed to be an atheist. . So i am not entirely sure. . Shaw has spiritual beliefs, but no specific religion. . Thats my understanding of agnostic. .i might be wrong. .

Scott in interview once called himself scientific agnostic.

He definitely digs the scientific stuff.

He also said at one stage that people in spite of all the tech we have now is looking for something higher spiritual. Hence Shaw 's viral video where she states: don't you feel that all the science / tech will never really answer your questions . That was what Prometheus was about in terms of Shaw's  character.

Another example (off topic) is how Scott spoke how easy it is just to walk up to a dam and and throw poison into it make it undrinkable and thousands would suffer before anyone knew as it was the drinking water of a city. Hence the goo.

Etc etc

All current themes.

People are definitely Looking for a higher purpose presence  goal.  And feel abandoned . Most people have no or little connection with a higher presence turns to something else . Fifield turn to drugs another social commentary..

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. .she has her own personal religious beliefs. . The cross is a reminder of that and a connection to her father. . I doubt your typical christian is gonna embrace the idea of engineers and neither your typical atheist. . .she is very open minded about religion. .i saw her as a scientist who hung on the speritual ideas. . Christians claim to know exactly were we come from and who and what god is. . Thats not what i got from shaw. .she was looking for answers. . Their was no blind faith. .

Some broad assumptions there.

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. . I suppose their is asumption their on my part. .some educated guessing. .but the movie was vague about her and religion. . And this is a thread about the trailor. . Gosh have we gone of topic. .lol

[SiL]

The film wasn't vague at all about it. She wears a Christian cross, repeatedly talks about God, and says she still believes at the end as she flies off. The only way it could be less vague is if she turned to camera halfway through and said "I am a Christian."

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. . God as in creator. .plus almost every relogion has a god. . I am not a christian, but i do believe their is a higher power and that we all have a spirit. .and i have family and friends who believe in god. .i am not criticising their faith. . Before anyone jumps to that conclution. . But for me her character just seemed well more spiritual than christian despite the cross. . I think it's up to the viewer to decide . . Perhaps she was a christian. .but not a fundamentalist christian. .

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Most aren't fundamentalist.

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. .they mostly not. .fair enough. . And i have met some pretty open minded christians. .

[Astronoë]

Oh wow comparing rogue one to a new trilogy is all kinds of fail. Rogue one is attached to the old trilogy that's why it fits in.

Force awakens is supposed to be  new trilogy but shamessly attaches itself to old trilogy, screwing over fans that expected something new.

Rogue One is the best SW movie since Empire strikes back, no goddamn cute muppet teddy-bears defeating the Empire or Jar jar or Mary sue Rey.
I can't take you seriously when u compare Rogue One (have u even seen it?) to Force Awakens...

That you have so much un-called faith for Ridley after Prometheus is ridiculous...skepticism is legitimate.

Yes, I have seen Rogue One. I didn't care for it. And it is comparable to The Force Awakens in the context we're referring to. Not only is it the second film from Disney, it's littered with references to the original trilogy. References that serve no other purpose other than to wink at the audience. Both films from Disney do this, but Rogue One goes far and beyond what is necessary. Hey, if you liked it, great, but don't act like the two films have nothing in common. And yes, I'm giving Scott the benefit of the doubt because he directed the original film in this saga, and he just directed Prometheus, which is at least the third best film in the saga ( in my opinion ). I can't take anyone seriously when they start comparing Scott's work to that of the brothers Strause. That's nonsense. People can hate on Prometheus all they want, but at least it wasn't the same recycled trash we've been getting from the Alien series ( and AVP ) for over a decade. If anyone actually believes that Covenant is going to be on the same level of film making as AVP:R, I just don't know what to tell them.

References to the old trilogy? Are you kidding me? It is PART OF the old trilogy, it's the SAME time-line, the ending leads DIRECTLY into the first scene of A New Hope! You would have known this if you had watched the movie, which obviously you haven't. Your answer is exactly the kind of stuff I would expect from someone who has yet to see movie n guessing wildly "well, it looks old n stuff, it takes from old movies just like force awakens..BOOO!!"
Go watch the movie before you come on here n comment on it. Embarrassing really...

I would have had more faith for Ridley if he hadn't involved his name with Bladerunner 2...looks like his principles went out the window as he got older n wanted to relive glory from younger days...(yes, I know he doesn't direct it, but still, he should have kept far away)
as for the trailer, reaction says it very good here..

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http://deadline.com/2015/09/ridley-scott-the-martian-star-wars-2001-alien-blade-runner-prometheus-toronto-film-festival-1201522484

A here's the article . Scott calls himself logically agnostic. Note how he thinks that there must have been a civilization  billions of years ago and that evolution is impossible at an mathematical level. There must be a guidance system.

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. .that was a very interesting and enjoyable read. . .thankyou oduodu!!