Was Burke working alone?

Started by Local Trouble, Oct 25, 2023, 12:07:44 AM

Was Burke working alone?

Yes
19 (90.5%)
No
2 (9.5%)

Total Members Voted: 21

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ralfy

ralfy

#15
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Oct 25, 2023, 05:01:17 PMRalfy vs.ChatGPT

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https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Carter_Burke

QuoteCarter J. Burke was a junior executive for the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, serving as Special Projects Director for Weyland-Yutani (Space) Corp's Special Services Division.[3]

Source: James Cameron (writer and director). Aliens (1986), 20th Century Fox [DVD].

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Weyland-Yutani_Corporation

QuoteLittle is truly known about Weyland-Yutani's Special Services Division, with the only confirmed contact being through employee Carter Burke, who acted as Special Projects Director within the department.[2] However, it is thought to be an umbrella division that oversaw and managed various other aspects of the company's research programs.

Source for the first point: James Cameron (writer and director). Aliens (1986), 20th Century Fox [DVD].

It looks like the writer's intention is to show that he wasn't working alone. Rather, the company set up a division to do the dirty work, like smuggling alien organisms and tech, to be sent to the Bio-Weapons, Reverse-Engineering, and Weapons Manufacture Division.

Bonus:

QuoteWeyland-Yutani held numerous other divisions of interest, most notably a large stake in interplanetary cargo transport.[15] It also operated departments focussed on media and manufacturing, and worked in close conjunction with the Extrasolar Colonization Administration. Weyland-Yutani's terraforming efforts were frequently portrayed as being benevolent in nature, but almost always carried a hidden agenda, or at least a substantial profit margin for the company.

Source for the first point:

Dan O'Bannon, Ronald Shusett (writers), Ridley Scott (director). Alien (1979), 20th Century Fox [DVD].

That means other divisions (or companies, partly or fully owned) include those involved in mining and terraforming.



Acid_Reign161

Acid_Reign161

#16
Here we go again... I don't even have to unblock that message to know what it says. I hope you are pleased with yourself LT, there's been none of this for weeks. 😝

SiL

SiL

#17
Let me guess: Ralfy thinks Burke being an employee means he wasn't working alone?

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#18
Quote from: ralfy on Oct 25, 2023, 11:22:27 PMIt looks like the writer's intention is to show that he wasn't working alone. Rather, the company set up a division to do the dirty work, like smuggling alien organisms and tech, to be sent to the Bio-Weapons, Reverse-Engineering, and Weapons Manufacture Division.

SiL

SiL

#19
Thank you for your service.

Jonjamess

Jonjamess

#20
Someone get SM back because now he knows about Ralfy. I've seen SM comment.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#21
SM should make a video about this.

SM

SM

#22
I started writing one about 'how much the Company knows' but haven't finished it.  Do you think it'll make any difference?

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#23
Absolutely.  ralfy's on the brink of seeing the light.  I'm sure of it.

SiL

SiL

#24
Quote from: SM on Oct 26, 2023, 01:44:54 AMI started writing one about 'how much the Company knows' but haven't finished it.  Do you think it'll make any difference?
No but I'll watch it

Wweyland

Wweyland

#25
As he was a "director", I would assume he had people working under him, and might have even had a team.
However, these kind of "minions" are often seen unworthy of business trips, as you would need to pay each one this "Daily allowance" and cover other costs.

SM

SM

#26
I doubt he'd have staff - an EA maybe, though maybe even not that.  Special Projects Director screams 'sounds important but is really ill-defined vague corporate fluff'.  It's like 'Project Officer'.

If he was Director of Special Projects - entirely different meaning.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#27
Are you prepared to address ralfy's incredulity that no one but Burke attempted to investigate the grid reference from the shuttle's flight recorder?

Acid_Reign161

Acid_Reign161

#28
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 26, 2023, 07:59:43 AMAre you prepared to address ralfy's incredulity that the no one but Burke attempted to investigate the grid reference from the shuttle's flight recorder?

lol, yup, prepare for 19 paragraphs from Ralfy on how Burke, the company, the government, and the (quote) "bug specialists" (marines to you and me) all knew the exact co-ordinates of the derelict - and they sent *one* guy - head of special projects - to get an organism (and not the entire team of scientists and dog handlers we saw in Alien 3) oh and marines were owned by the company and working under Burke (even though he had to sneak around and had zero authority). And any of us who say otherwise are all wrong, James Cameron is wrong (except when he is being misquoted), and apparently, this is aaall in the movie and we're all stupid.. blah blah waffle. 😂 LC, you knew what you were doing when you started this thread lol. 😛

SiL

SiL

#29
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 26, 2023, 07:08:31 AMAs he was a "director", I would assume he had people working under him, and might have even had a team.
However, these kind of "minions" are often seen unworthy of business trips, as you would need to pay each one this "Daily allowance" and cover other costs.
Even he did, he explains clearly he acted alone to maximise his stake in the claim.

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