Studying the Engineers Civilization: Theories

Started by Immortan Jonesy, Mar 02, 2018, 04:34:34 PM

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Immortan Jonesy

Quote from: muthur9000 on Sep 18, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Sep 18, 2018, 07:18:39 PM
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 18, 2018, 03:42:01 PM
Quote from: bb-15 on Sep 18, 2018, 05:00:29 AM
This still leaves the question, why did the Engineers use those kinds of designs for their ships and genetically engineered creatures? 

;)

From what I remember from David's writings (could be wrong):

Those designs are tested and tried by time and perfected by evolution. Think there was comparison to some kind of shell or shelled creature.
So they applied those designs to their ships to achieve the same kind of perfection.

Yeah, maybe there is no such thing as elephant man, but the deconstruction of natural design on others life forms.

https://i.imgur.com/g50Xu2X.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/EerQgmq.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/pGWOq4y.jpg

And what we call trunk / pipe is actually the reverse engineering of a cephalopod shell, more specifically the body-chamber / cavity in the shell.

https://i.imgur.com/9kfU67R.jpg     https://i.imgur.com/UGUtKqj.jpg

Thank's kind of cool when you compare Cthulu and a Nautilus
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lovecraft/images/c/cf/Screenshot_20171018-093500.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20171020174137
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Nautilus_Palau.JPG/220px-Nautilus_Palau.JPG

Planet 4 should be renamed as R'lyeh :laugh:

SM

Got lots of water.

Immortan Jonesy

Since Engineers have the same anatomy as humans, I wonder if they were designing spaceships based on their own bones.



Baron Von Marlon

Baron Von Marlon

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Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Sep 19, 2018, 02:07:21 AM
Since Engineers have the same anatomy as humans, I wonder if they were designing spaceships based on their own bones.


https://i.imgur.com/4rI0Zbx.gif

It's been called the horshoe ship so maybe it's from the horseshoe crab's shell? The lining has a similar curve.

They're old, primitive creatures. To make sure I googled them and it turns out they're considered living fossils (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_fossil).
Other creatures listed are the nautilus and goblin shark  :)


Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

#64
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 19, 2018, 02:25:28 AM
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Sep 19, 2018, 02:07:21 AM
Since Engineers have the same anatomy as humans, I wonder if they were designing spaceships based on their own bones.


https://i.imgur.com/4rI0Zbx.gif

It's been called the horshoe ship so maybe it's from the horseshoe crab's shell? The lining has a similar curve.

They're old, primitive creatures. To make sure I googled them and it turns out they're considered living fossils (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_fossil).
Other creatures listed are the nautilus and goblin shark  :)

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/05/29/nyregion/29NATURE/29NATURE-articleLarge.jpg

Interesting and yeah, we talked about nautilus in the last page, and I'm aware of living fossils. But yeah, the horseshoe crab is amazing and I think I saw one in David's drawings, I could be wrong though. Sharks are an interesting subject too. The Neomorph/Deacon's jaws are similar to the goblin shark ones, although in the case of the Deacon is more like a pharyngeal jaw. Also, at the Derelict there is a hammer-head-like structure at the end of one of its arms. :laugh:

However, one thing is Giger's biomechanics and another one is the Gigeresque philosophy from the prequels...which clearly implies that Engineers are evoking elements of nature such as the flora and fauna from their homeworld in their designs. And I'm sure that we both agree on that.  :)

But the fact that they have solar panels in their town, kinda tells me that their culture is similar to the Na'vi from Avatar, with the whole Space Gaia thing.

question11

Interesting rid is an atheist yet mythologizes with engineers as "ten apostles" and has said jesus was an engineer. For an atheist, he is a bit obsessed with religious metaphor

Baron Von Marlon

Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Sep 19, 2018, 02:42:19 AM

Interesting and yeah, we talked about nautilus in the last page, and I'm aware of living fossils. But yeah, the horseshoe crab is amazing and I think I saw one in David's drawings, I could be wrong though. Sharks are an interesting subject too. The Neomorph/Deacon's jaws are similar to the goblin shark ones, although in the case of the Deacon is more like a pharyngeal jaw. Also, at the Derelict there is a hammer-head-like structure at the end of one of its arms. :laugh:

However, one thing is Giger's biomechanics and another one is the Gigeresque philosophy from the prequels...which clearly implies that Engineers are evoking elements of nature such as the flora and fauna from their homeworld in their designs. And I'm sure that we both agree on that.  :)

But the fact that they have solar panels in their town, kinda tells me that their culture is similar to the Na'vi from Avatar, with the whole Space Gaia thing.


A while ago I came across this page. https://twitter.com/Extinct_AnimaIs
If you're into extinct animals and stuff, you might like it.

Love those fauna and flora elements. But I always had a thing for nature in general. It's just so fascinating.

Just found this, you might have posted this animal before.

The horshoe shaped treehopper.



I'll have to add the Space Gaia thing to my reading list.

Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

#67
LOL Do you remember the xeno-shark from the concept art?



Well, there's one of these at David's lab  :laugh:







And something similar to the unused early version of the Neomorph ;D





Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 19, 2018, 04:15:36 AM
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Sep 19, 2018, 02:42:19 AM

Interesting and yeah, we talked about nautilus in the last page, and I'm aware of living fossils. But yeah, the horseshoe crab is amazing and I think I saw one in David's drawings, I could be wrong though. Sharks are an interesting subject too. The Neomorph/Deacon's jaws are similar to the goblin shark ones, although in the case of the Deacon is more like a pharyngeal jaw. Also, at the Derelict there is a hammer-head-like structure at the end of one of its arms. :laugh:

However, one thing is Giger's biomechanics and another one is the Gigeresque philosophy from the prequels...which clearly implies that Engineers are evoking elements of nature such as the flora and fauna from their homeworld in their designs. And I'm sure that we both agree on that.  :)

But the fact that they have solar panels in their town, kinda tells me that their culture is similar to the Na'vi from Avatar, with the whole Space Gaia thing.


A while ago I came across this page. https://twitter.com/Extinct_AnimaIs
If you're into extinct animals and stuff, you might like it.

Love those fauna and flora elements. But I always had a thing for nature in general. It's just so fascinating.

Just found this, you might have posted this animal before.

The horshoe shaped treehopper.



I'll have to add the Space Gaia thing to my reading list.

Yeah, such a natural and funny coincidence. Good find mate  ;)





And speaking of living fossils, David used prehistoric-looking animals in his experiments. There is a translucent creature a little similar to the Horseshoe crab:





And a prehistoric-looking sloth, megafauna from the Pleistocene in real life.







Besides, the David's drawing that evokes some kind of barbaric ritual is based on the work of the American photographer Joel-Peter Witkin. Specifically a piece called *Woman Breastfeeding An Eel*.




Immortan Jonesy

Just found it this while I was looking for an Alien themed Ouroboros, for a thread.


Baron Von Marlon

Baron Von Marlon

#69
Saw a documentary called Mussolini, Monuments and Modernism and a couple of things caught my eye.



Celtic Tumuli, Ireland (LV-223 facility)




Necropolis of Pantalitica, Sicily (mountains sides around Engineer City)



Memorial Of Redipuglia (the square and stairs in front of the Engineer citadel)




Stadio dei Marmi, Foro Mussolini (I imagine the arena/colloseum from an earlier draft looking something like this)








While searching for images I saw this. We already compared Engineer City to Vatican City. Like the square, with the circle in the middle.
But now I noticed the pillar walls to the left and right of the circle are also similar. Just like the gate in the back of the square.
And the point of view is similar to David's on the balcony.


Delta Echo Alpha Delta

Here's my theory based on the architecture of the cathedral

https://yutani.blog/2018/10/11/the-engineer-cathedral/

Immortan Jonesy

I love it! I had no idea that a World War II monument was the inspiration for the crown-like structure at the top of the Engineer's monastery or the whole symbolism behind the domed entrance to the temple.  But just as interesting was your theory about Planet 4. I must be blind as I had never thought too much about the parallel with the Earth-like-planet of the beginning of Prometheus.  :laugh:

Baron Von Marlon

Quote from: muthur9000 on Oct 10, 2018, 01:33:39 PM
Here's my theory based on the architecture of the cathedral

https://yutani.blog/2018/10/11/the-engineer-cathedral/

Nice one!

Would love to visit the place. And where they shot Prometheus and Covenant.

Delta Echo Alpha Delta

Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Oct 10, 2018, 10:34:03 PM
I love it! I had no idea that a World War II monument was the inspiration for the crown-like structure at the top of the Engineer's monastery or the whole symbolism behind the domed entrance to the temple.  But just as interesting was your theory about Planet 4. I must be blind as I had never thought too much about the parallel with the Earth-like-planet of the beginning of Prometheus.  :laugh:

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. Over-analysis is my thing, if there's a vague connection you can rely on me to find it XD


Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Oct 10, 2018, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: muthur9000 on Oct 10, 2018, 01:33:39 PM
Here's my theory based on the architecture of the cathedral

https://yutani.blog/2018/10/11/the-engineer-cathedral/

Nice one!

Would love to visit the place. And where they shot Prometheus and Covenant.

My husband's lineage goes back to Yugoslavia/Croatia, so I will definitely be going there one day. I bought the Spomenik Database book and the dust cover is a map showing where all the monuments are. I really want to go to all those places, to see this slice of history would be amazing.

The Old One

The Old One

#74
Thank you for all your hard-work MUTHUR.

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