Does anyone else feel that the Neomorph is truly the perfect organism?

Started by GreybackElder, Nov 29, 2017, 03:00:21 AM

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Does anyone else feel that the Neomorph is truly the perfect organism? (Read 4,989 times)

Paranoid Android

Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 12, 2017, 11:16:00 AM
Or alternatively, the movie was on a tight budget and having everybody wear an expensive suit would've hampered its production.
You mean the same expensive suits the actors wear in both earlier and later scenes in the exact same film? Maybe those are like, James Bond space suits, that self-destruct after exposure to a camera. That's why they couldn't have worn those suits again after shooting the sail repair and final hanger battle scenes.

Yeah, the only reason they don't wear space suits when exploring the planet is cause if they were to behave like reasonable people there'd be no movie.

Neirum

Quote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..

but

The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.


+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.

110% agree with ya here. That's the entire point of the Xeno; to not only murder every single human, but ensure they are being raped and terrified to the Nth degree driven to madness right before the Jungian shadow inside us all bursts free of it's human prison and at last becomes the Omega to our Alpha. It's really just as simple as that in my opinion, and I've never ever seen anything such as this done before in fiction; it's the most terrifying thing I know since Covenant came out and my eyes were open to what Scott is doing with the whole A.I. thing being against all of nature and wanting the rebel Paradise Lost style. Like, David literally made demons tailored to  human beings, humanities own son; somehow that's way more terrifying than some 12,000,000 year old elephant space jockey, some ancient Lovecraftian tentacle monster, or even the Engineers themselves. Engineers saw the error in their ways I believe and they rebelled against their tech and A.I. and compartmentalized it only for specific tasks in favor of religion, farming, reconnecting to each other in real conversations and just naturally evolving the way they did before.  They in many ways are smarter and more stable than us, take a look at their city and all the pillar statues surrounding the hangar in the center; it's the archetypes of the psyche and they understood balance must be maintained inside the mind; unlike humans. They KNEW they effing KNEW that if they didn't "abandon the wolf" a Decon or Neomorph thing would run rampant eventually, the Xenochrist mural imo was a warning to what lurks in the back of every intelligent being and exactly what David now embodies, pure rape and disgusted resentment for all good things.

asil

Quote from: Nerium on Dec 14, 2017, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..

but

The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.


+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.

110% agree with ya here. That's the entire point of the Xeno; to not only murder every single human, but ensure they are being raped and terrified to the Nth degree driven to madness right before the Jungian shadow inside us all bursts free of it's human prison and at last becomes the Omega to our Alpha. It's really just as simple as that in my opinion, and I've never ever seen anything such as this done before in fiction; it's the most terrifying thing I know since Covenant came out and my eyes were open to what Scott is doing with the whole A.I. thing being against all of nature and wanting the rebel Paradise Lost style. Like, David literally made demons tailored to  human beings, humanities own son; somehow that's way more terrifying than some 12,000,000 year old elephant space jockey, some ancient Lovecraftian tentacle monster, or even the Engineers themselves. Engineers saw the error in their ways I believe and they rebelled against their tech and A.I. and compartmentalized it only for specific tasks in favor of religion, farming, reconnecting to each other in real conversations and just naturally evolving the way they did before.  They in many ways are smarter and more stable than us, take a look at their city and all the pillar statues surrounding the hangar in the center; it's the archetypes of the psyche and they understood balance must be maintained inside the mind; unlike humans. They KNEW they effing KNEW that if they didn't "abandon the wolf" a Decon or Neomorph thing would run rampant eventually, the Xenochrist mural imo was a warning to what lurks in the back of every intelligent being and exactly what David now embodies, pure rape and disgusted resentment for all good things.

Ya, it's perfect to David but very uncomfortable to us.

The_Foxcatcher

The_Foxcatcher

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Quote from: asil on Dec 14, 2017, 04:31:49 AM
Quote from: Nerium on Dec 14, 2017, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..

but

The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.


+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.

110% agree with ya here. That's the entire point of the Xeno; to not only murder every single human, but ensure they are being raped and terrified to the Nth degree driven to madness right before the Jungian shadow inside us all bursts free of it's human prison and at last becomes the Omega to our Alpha. It's really just as simple as that in my opinion, and I've never ever seen anything such as this done before in fiction; it's the most terrifying thing I know since Covenant came out and my eyes were open to what Scott is doing with the whole A.I. thing being against all of nature and wanting the rebel Paradise Lost style. Like, David literally made demons tailored to  human beings, humanities own son; somehow that's way more terrifying than some 12,000,000 year old elephant space jockey, some ancient Lovecraftian tentacle monster, or even the Engineers themselves. Engineers saw the error in their ways I believe and they rebelled against their tech and A.I. and compartmentalized it only for specific tasks in favor of religion, farming, reconnecting to each other in real conversations and just naturally evolving the way they did before.  They in many ways are smarter and more stable than us, take a look at their city and all the pillar statues surrounding the hangar in the center; it's the archetypes of the psyche and they understood balance must be maintained inside the mind; unlike humans. They KNEW they effing KNEW that if they didn't "abandon the wolf" a Decon or Neomorph thing would run rampant eventually, the Xenochrist mural imo was a warning to what lurks in the back of every intelligent being and exactly what David now embodies, pure rape and disgusted resentment for all good things.

Ya, it's perfect to David but very uncomfortable to us.


The Facehuggers (versions of Facehuggers) existed much before the events of Covenant. Its an imminent result of mutation of sexual reproduction by Black goo.

David simply made his version of it (using flies & further hybridization).
   

Still Collating...

Quote from: Nerium on Dec 14, 2017, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 29, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
The Neomorph's reproduction IS more efficient, yes..

but

The FaceHugger's modus operandi reflects David's "rapey" attitude towards humans.
It can be seen as a kind of signature and an "f u" to humanity from David.
The "motes" are deadly.. but the facehuggers are deadly AND humilliating.
And that seems to be David's goal, really.


+ the xeno's are a LOT tougher than the neomorphs, as has been said already.

110% agree with ya here. That's the entire point of the Xeno; to not only murder every single human, but ensure they are being raped and terrified to the Nth degree driven to madness right before the Jungian shadow inside us all bursts free of it's human prison and at last becomes the Omega to our Alpha. It's really just as simple as that in my opinion, and I've never ever seen anything such as this done before in fiction; it's the most terrifying thing I know since Covenant came out and my eyes were open to what Scott is doing with the whole A.I. thing being against all of nature and wanting the rebel Paradise Lost style. Like, David literally made demons tailored to  human beings, humanities own son; somehow that's way more terrifying than some 12,000,000 year old elephant space jockey, some ancient Lovecraftian tentacle monster, or even the Engineers themselves. Engineers saw the error in their ways I believe and they rebelled against their tech and A.I. and compartmentalized it only for specific tasks in favor of religion, farming, reconnecting to each other in real conversations and just naturally evolving the way they did before.  They in many ways are smarter and more stable than us, take a look at their city and all the pillar statues surrounding the hangar in the center; it's the archetypes of the psyche and they understood balance must be maintained inside the mind; unlike humans. They KNEW they effing KNEW that if they didn't "abandon the wolf" a Decon or Neomorph thing would run rampant eventually, the Xenochrist mural imo was a warning to what lurks in the back of every intelligent being and exactly what David now embodies, pure rape and disgusted resentment for all good things.

I really like this interpretation, seems fitting. I just hope the themes are played out well if we see Scott's sequel and not abandoned. Tie things up neatly.

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