Quote from: cmdcnqr on Dec 17, 2011, 05:29:23 PM
THANK GOD/and or Space Jockeys that there are no Xenomorphs! That rag has been rung dry, too dry. The classic alien has been reduced to a laughing stock after Alien 4, and those disgusting AVP films. Why would you want any more xenomorphs? To do what? Crawl on walls and chase people around? Too predictable. Sir Ridley the Grand Master is back and I'm sure he's going to surprise us with some new creatures, meaner and nastier than before!
There's
nothing wrong with the Alien. If there was, you wouldn't even be a member of these forums.
More to the point, people wouldn't
still be counting the two original films as amongst their favourites, to this very day - and actively rewatching them.
Ridley's jaded. That's understandable. But I think he's wrong about them no longer having value. It's simply that they haven't been portrayed
right since the eighties. That's a big part of why people get so pissed off at the other films (especially the AVP ones). It's because fandom realises there's so much immense potential for the things and, every time, we see professionals getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to treat them with respect and we see it being squandered.
There's been some truly amazing atmospheric artwork produced of the Aliens since the late eighties. Heck, there have been some amazing professional statues produced, too. Some crappy stuff, yes, but the sheer volume of the truly atmospheric stuff is impressive. If someone was able to reproduce that level of iconic horror in film form? You can bet the creatures would be revitalised and back at the top of their cinematic game.
If the Aliens are so unscary and past their prime, then name me something which has replaced them in the public imagination and
isn't a direct copy.
It's like Terminators... They've been shamelessly copied and parodied, countless times. Does that mean to say the original films and designs would be any less effective, today? No! It's just that they haven't been portrayed
right. They haven't had the right script, story and directors. You
could make an excellent new '
Terminator' film, it's just that nobody has.
And, really, would '
Prometheus' even be generating half the hype it has if it was known to have nothing in common with the other '
Alien' films? I don't think so.
It's a prequel. It's intended to be a part of the same continuity. It doesn't matter that we won't be seeing the Aliens, themselves. We'll be seeing other things. But to say there's no way the Aliens could ever be handled right in future is to devalue what made - and still makes - those original films so iconic and powerful, today.
Not that there's anything wrong with new creatures, by any means. If there's something on the level of Sil, from '
Species', except more vicious and predatory, that'd be fine. I just don't agree with this recent need I've seen from some quarters to hype up the new film at the expense of devaluing the old ones.
Besides which, if Ridley
truly thought that? He wouldn't have had those meetings we know he did with Sigourney Weaver and James Cameron, where they bitched about what had gone wrong with the later portrayals and decided to 'do it right'. Sadly, according to Cameron, Ridley just never bothered getting back in touch after he agreed to try and write the story for it.
