Reproduction Method Official

Started by SuicideDoors, Oct 26, 2007, 08:01:45 AM

Do you like the new addition to the lifecycle?

Love it!
80 (21.6%)
Pretty Cool
135 (36.5%)
I expected more
31 (8.4%)
Hate it
40 (10.8%)
To hell with the makers of AvP: R
30 (8.1%)
Like some aspects of it, but think it contradicts too much.
54 (14.6%)

Total Members Voted: 324

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Johnny Handsome

QuoteOne of the reasons given for this thing was that the Predalien supposedly needs an army before laying eggs (which it doesn't, but still) - yet now it already has plenty of other Aliens being made, regardless?
The queen in aliens had 157 aliens, there were not even more hosts available, still, she continued to lay eggs.
Maybe its the predalien plan to take over earth as fast as possible.

Noir-Gojira

Noir-Gojira

#2866
QuoteEgg morphing is in the absence of a Queen, not the early stages of becoming one.
Why?

SiL

SiL

#2867
Because the original Alien wasn't becoming a Queen, and what Chet is doing is totally different.

Johnny Handsome

Quote from: SiL on Nov 22, 2007, 12:34:00 AM
Because the original Alien wasn't becoming a Queen, and what Chet is doing is totally different.
Yeah, but we have never seen a predalien before.
QuoteBecause the original Alien wasn't becoming a Queen
We dont know that.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#2869
Quote from: Noir-Gojira on Nov 22, 2007, 12:33:00 AM
QuoteEgg morphing is in the absence of a Queen, not the early stages of becoming one.
Why?

Because an alien that is becoming one, (if that were even possible) would know it was molting and would instinctively just hide away and then lay eggs upon completion of that molting. Only when there is no queen present at all, would a lone warrior alien isolated from a hive, egg morph one host to make a queen bearing egg.

SiL

SiL

#2870
By that logic the thing can also fly, fart lightning and spit flames from its mouths.

Noir-Gojira

Noir-Gojira

#2871
WOO!~  Now that's what I'm talking about! ^_^

SiL

SiL

#2872
And the Bros, apparently.

Cos it's hardcore.

Johnny Handsome

QuoteCos it's hardcore.
Its really getting old.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#2874
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Nov 22, 2007, 12:34:50 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 22, 2007, 12:34:00 AM
Because the original Alien wasn't becoming a Queen, and what Chet is doing is totally different.
Yeah, but we have never seen a predalien before.
QuoteBecause the original Alien wasn't becoming a Queen
We dont know that.

Actually the comics have had predaliens, although they aren't considered canon. So have the video games, so we have seen predaliens before. Its not as if its a new concept made solely for its introduction to the fans in this film.

The alien in "Alien" was not becoming a queen, because the events of alien just like avp-r are a matter of days and no changes in its physical structure took place. No queen crest, no big-ass tail. It egg-morphed, and there was no talk of vomiting or any reproductive cycles other than egg-morphing by the filmakers and writers.

SiL

SiL

#2875
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Nov 22, 2007, 12:34:50 AM
We dont know that.
Chet shows definite signs of Queenage before the new cycle. Original Alien didn't.

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#2876
Quote from: SiL on Nov 22, 2007, 12:40:15 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Nov 22, 2007, 12:34:50 AM
We dont know that.
Chet shows definite signs of Queenage before the new cycle. Original Alien didn't.

Indeed. Its as if some people here (johnny handsome..etc.) think that the big spiky tail is just something all predaliens would have as if its not a queen trait, same goes for the crest-like end of its head. A normal predalien would most likely look like the warrior aliens, with the ridged head, albeit it would still have the mandibles (and dreadlocks.. ???) and would be overall a little bigger.

Johnny Handsome

QuoteActually the comics have had predaliens, although they aren't considered canon. So have the video games, so we have seen predaliens before. Its not as if its a new concept made solely for its introduction to the fans in this film.
Like you said, comics arent canon, so why even mention them.
QuoteThe alien in "Alien" was not becoming a queen, because the events of alien just like avp-r are a matter of days and no changes in its physical structure took place. No queen crest, no big-ass tail.
It was a normal drone, maybe it took longer to mold into one, the predalien obviously dont need more then a couple of days, and the events in alien took place in about 24 hours, like said in aliens.
QuoteChet shows definite signs of Queenage before the new cycle. Original Alien didn't.
Original alien wasnt a predalien ;)
Its stronger, more dangerous, bigger, why not able to mold sooner then.

SM

SM

#2878
QuoteCos it's hardcore.

And "awesomeness"!

Ballzanya

Ballzanya

#2879
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Nov 22, 2007, 12:43:57 AM
QuoteActually the comics have had predaliens, although they aren't considered canon. So have the video games, so we have seen predaliens before. Its not as if its a new concept made solely for its introduction to the fans in this film.
Like you said, comics arent canon, so why even mention them.
QuoteThe alien in "Alien" was not becoming a queen, because the events of alien just like avp-r are a matter of days and no changes in its physical structure took place. No queen crest, no big-ass tail.
It was a normal drone, maybe it took longer to mold into one, the predalien obviously dont need more then a couple of days, and the events in alien took place in about 24 hours, like said in aliens.
QuoteChet shows definite signs of Queenage before the new cycle. Original Alien didn't.
Original alien wasnt a predalien ;)
Its stronger, more dangerous, bigger, why not able to mold sooner then.

when in "Aliens" does anyone say the events of the first film took place in 24 hours? If your referring to the discussion in the board room aboard gateway station, they are talking about previous breifings with ripley that took place 24 hours prior to that discussion where her flight status is revoked and she urges the company guy, to check out lv-426.

Why would physical stature determine the speed in which an alien molts. All instincts, behaviors they have should not change just because it might have burst out of a different host.

And if the alien in the first film was molting, it should have had the queen head or at least some transitional form of it and it did not. Why would it have to be a predalien to show such signs, that is just ridiculous.

And before someone mentions that the alien in alien 3 was quadripedal and maybe couldn't molt because of that, let me stop you right there. How adaptable is that, when a bipedal host is required for an alien to molt into a queen(assuming that were canonical and possilble for the sake of argument)?
So if the aliens are on a planet where all potential hosts are quadripedal, I guess their just out of luck and can't molt then, even though it is supposedly argued to be possible and a way of gettinga queen in some people's views.

You must remember that human born aliens are not the norm, Just because they are the most commonly used/seen ones. The dna reflex thing doesn't produce true hybrids, only aliens with varying physical characteristics that help them adapt to their environment and survive.

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