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Author Topic: First Marvel Collection Revealed  (Read 15086 times)

Perfect-Organism
Aug 21, 2020, 01:19:49 AM
Reply #60 on: Aug 21, 2020, 01:19:49 AM
What my take-away from all this is, we need more Denis Beauvais.

By Marvel finding Countdown, I am inclined to believe that somebody over there has their finger on the pulse of the Aliens series and its terrific EU history.  If they bring in some of the classic greats like Verheiden, Nelson, Beauvais and the new classics like Tristan Jones, Marvel will something amazing.

Now if we could also get some more tight film adaptations, proper re-coloring (re-mastering) of some master-works, and lots of alternate tales like DH was doing towards the end, I am fully on board.


barrydalgarno
Aug 21, 2020, 04:24:20 AM
Reply #61 on: Aug 21, 2020, 04:24:20 AM
I bet since Marvel has the rights to the Alien and Predator comics from Dark Horses that they're gonna edit all the swearing and probably even water down the gore too since Marvel is basically for kids and for us adults who grew up in the late 80s into the 90s collecting the Alien and Predator comics from Dark Horses.

I’m guessing you’ve never seen the PunisherMAX runs. They don’t tone down SHIT. This’ll be left alone and will be for mature readers.


Russ840
Aug 21, 2020, 04:34:02 AM
Reply #62 on: Aug 21, 2020, 04:34:02 AM
Countdown is great but very short.

Even I'll admit that I'm impressed they are actually going to reprint that story, I had been bugging DH about Countdown for years.  I was kinda crushed when it wasn't in the fancy pantz. Even more so than not having the Spears/Alien tube page.

Now if Marvel really wants to blow my socks off, dig up and release Aliens: Matrix :D

I would wet myself lol



Russ840
Aug 21, 2020, 07:47:02 AM
Reply #64 on: Aug 21, 2020, 07:47:02 AM
The Nelson cover is the direct market variant.

A bit harder to get as they normally sell out quick and you cant get direct market variants from the likes of Amazon.


Kradan
Aug 21, 2020, 07:58:46 AM
Reply #65 on: Aug 21, 2020, 07:58:46 AM
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/aliens-omnibus-volume-1-collects-the-original-alien-comics?linkId=97747591

Marvel officially announced. The actual Omnibus will have brand new cover art by Greg Land.

From what I can tell quick-searching his artwork on Google - its pretty standard super-hero stuff AKA "Over-muscled men and hot chicks". Not sure how well it will suit Alien

I'd be happy with something from Beauvais or Plunkett or Dorman or St. Jones instead - someone who already left his mark on EU


Russ840
Aug 21, 2020, 08:11:20 AM
Reply #66 on: Aug 21, 2020, 08:11:20 AM
Greg Land is not well liked in the comic fandom due to him being accused of tracing.  I cant say i like him too much myself, i find his work lifeless and static.

The Nelson DM variant is the one for me here so ill be going for that.


Wweyland
Aug 21, 2020, 08:18:58 AM
Reply #67 on: Aug 21, 2020, 08:18:58 AM
Sounds good and I would be willing to switch out my old Dark Horse omnibuses (the ugly white ones).
They have binding problems as well, hope this has quality bindings.


Corporal Hicks
Aug 21, 2020, 08:20:46 AM
Reply #68 on: Aug 21, 2020, 08:20:46 AM
I'd managed to get away with no binding issues for a while with those, but the last time I cracked one open it started to come undone.  :'(


Russ840
Aug 21, 2020, 08:22:08 AM
Reply #69 on: Aug 21, 2020, 08:22:08 AM
That’s always going to happen to glued paperbacks with a large page count.


Wweyland
Aug 21, 2020, 09:32:07 AM
Reply #70 on: Aug 21, 2020, 09:32:07 AM
I have noticed that being in the direct sunlight might be a factor in them breaking apart (also the colors fading).


SM
Aug 21, 2020, 10:52:00 AM
Reply #71 on: Aug 21, 2020, 10:52:00 AM
Greg Land is not well liked in the comic fandom due to him being accused of tracing.  I cant say i like him too much myself, i find his work lifeless and static.

The Nelson DM variant is the one for me here so ill be going for that.

I wasn't familiar with his stuff so had a look and at the tracing stuff.

He'll probably use this...



I'm curious about the tracing.  I see stacks of art on Facebook that some people rave about that's obviously been traced from a still.  Drawing, shading and colouring all require some skill and talent.  Using photos or models as reference - yep, completely fair.  Alien and Predator comic scripts suggest certain toys for artists to use (and are some times too obvious).

Tracing just seems like cheating.


Russ840
Aug 21, 2020, 11:27:37 AM
Reply #72 on: Aug 21, 2020, 11:27:37 AM
When an artist traces, although I can appreciate that the is still some skill required in the rendering and what not, the images always seem lifeless.

And good call on that image SM  :laugh:

« Last Edit: Aug 21, 2020, 11:31:10 AM by Russ840 »

SiL
Aug 21, 2020, 11:51:52 AM
Reply #73 on: Aug 21, 2020, 11:51:52 AM
I'd managed to get away with no binding issues for a while with those, but the last time I cracked one open it started to come undone.  :'(
I recently looked through mine to find the Berserker comic and the crackling was one of the most stress-inducing sounds I've heard in a long time.



SuperiorIronman
Aug 21, 2020, 12:41:14 PM
Reply #74 on: Aug 21, 2020, 12:41:14 PM
Ultimately my issue with Greg Land is his tracing and recycling of said tracings. Land is also known for tracing from porn and once you see it, you can't un-see it. Ultimate Marvel is filled with examples of this.









I get that he's going to be on the cover but I feel like that's an immense downgrade from any number of talented artists. At least it's not Rob Liefeld but that's a big oof they got Land.


 

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