The Predator VS AVPR

[Alien³]

I voted AVPR.

They're both unwatchable garbage, but if I had to watch one, it would be the one that is too dark to see and shorter in runtime.

[The Cruentus]

The fight between Wolf and Chet was far from solid, it was silly. Firstly, we have what is essentially animal just deciding to wait patiently while Wolf slowly removes his mask. Then the fight itself is just full of ultra close ups.
Wolf may have had a cool design but he was incompetent, not only was he incapable of doing his job, he actively made the situation worse multiple times.

[Voodoo Magic]

That is certainly true. Quality of actors was well above AvPR too.

Quality of actors? Certainly. With Sterling K. Brown and Thomas Jane, they've upgraded the marquee from C-List to B-List. But quality of acting? No way. From Nebraska's unconvincing suicide reveal, to Coyle and Baxley killing each other, to woefully delivered lines like "You shove me again, I'm going to break your neck. Did I say that out loud?", in regards to acting performances and believability I'll take AvPR over the aardvark movie everytime.

I think both are mindless and on the lower end when it comes to Predator movies, but I'd still say I just had more fun with AVPR. Even if it boils down to just getting to see a predator cleaning up a predator mess. Hell, the final fight between Wolf and Predalien is really solid, and I love how it ends in a stale mate as a nuke drops in a background. AVPR is more a bad movie with glimmering fun bits for me, where as The Predator felt more like a slog the whole way through.

Also, I mean really, how can I argue with a predator that has Harvey Keitel as a namesake?

Right on!  I still have fun watching AvPR as a mindless popcorn monster invasion movie.  And luckily I have the right combination of equipment to watch the unrated blu and not struggle to see what's going on.

#TeamAVPR

[Corporal Hicks]

Quality of actors? Certainly. With Sterling K. Brown and Thomas Jane, they've upgraded the marquee from C-List to B-List. But quality of acting? No way. From Nebraska's unconvincing suicide reveal, to Coyle and Baxley killing each other, to woefully delivered lines like "You shove me again, I'm going to break your neck. Did I say that out loud?", in regards to acting performances and believability I'll take AvPR over the aardvark movie everytime.

The bolded isn't an acting issue. That's on the editing. But I do disagree with you. The actors were better - I wouldn't even call AvPR's c-listers to be honest. I enjoyed the acting in TP far more than I did on AvPR.

[Voodoo Magic]

Quality of actors? Certainly. With Sterling K. Brown and Thomas Jane, they've upgraded the marquee from C-List to B-List. But quality of acting? No way. From Nebraska's unconvincing suicide reveal, to Coyle and Baxley killing each other, to woefully delivered lines like "You shove me again, I'm going to break your neck. Did I say that out loud?", in regards to acting performances and believability I'll take AvPR over the aardvark movie everytime.

The bolded isn't an acting issue. That's on the editing. But I do disagree with you. The actors were better - I wouldn't even call AvPR's c-listers to be honest. I enjoyed the acting in TP far more than I did on AvPR.

A,B,C,D List doesn't guage with me here because it doesn't equate to acting abilities, just above-the-title, bankable, name recognition factoring.  But as a whole, to me, the AvPR performances were better. That's where we differ. 

Of course, it's important to remember we are not comparing apples & oranges here, but moldy apples & oranges!

[The Cruentus]

A,B,C,D List doesn't guage with me here because it doesn't equate to acting abilities, just above-the-title, bankable, name recognition factoring.  But as a whole, to me, the AvPR performances were better. That's where we differ. 

Of course, it's important to remember we are not comparing apples & oranges here, but moldy apples & oranges!

The government doesn't lie to people.
Shut up Dale, you're too stupid to talk.
People are dying, we need guns.

Yes, brilliant performances.  

Though in fairness, the script is probably more at fault there.

[Voodoo Magic]

A,B,C,D List doesn't guage with me here because it doesn't equate to acting abilities, just above-the-title, bankable, name recognition factoring.  But as a whole, to me, the AvPR performances were better. That's where we differ. 

Of course, it's important to remember we are not comparing apples & oranges here, but moldy apples & oranges!

The government doesn't lie to people.
Shut up Dale, you're too stupid to talk.
People are dying, we need guns.

Yes, brilliant performances.  

Who said brilliant?  Moldy apples & oranges.

Though in fairness, the script is probably more at fault there.

Yeah, plenty of poorly written lines aplenty, but the actors really went all in with them to the best of their ability imo.

[Corporal Hicks]

Shut up Dale, you're too stupid to talk.

That's one I love.  I often find myself thinking about that line during the day.

[Voodoo Magic]

Shut up Dale, you're too stupid to talk.

That's one I love.  I often find myself thinking about that line during the day.

Shut up [insert name here], you're too stupid to talk.

[HuDaFuK]

Also, I mean really, how can I argue with a predator that has Harvey Keitel as a namesake?

Because said Predator's a moron who completely fails at his sole objective and is only "badass" because every time he fights an Alien it conveniently forgets it has claws, tails and jaws with which it could attack him while he stands there striking a pose?

[Samhain13]

If Wolf didn't fail the movie would have ended in the sewers.

[Voodoo Magic]

Plus the old-timer was blind in one-eye!  Give 'em a break!

[50percentJoe]

The Predator definitely has the better and more notable cast, but I feel it set my expectations too high for that in that I expected a more charismatic cast. Where AVPR the only person I recognized was Rickety Cricket, and that sets the bar for what I expect a lot lower in terms of memorable characters.

[SM]

The fight between Wolf and Chet was far from solid, it was silly. Firstly, we have what is essentially animal just deciding to wait patiently while Wolf slowly removes his mask. Then the fight itself is just full of ultra close ups.
Wolf may have had a cool design but he was incompetent, not only was he incapable of doing his job, he actively made the situation worse multiple times.

The other thing with the final fight is that it's barely two minutes of screen time - including Wolf disarming himself.  We finally see a Predator go toe-to-toe with a PredAlien (may its name be forever cursed) and a quarter of the fight is the Predator taking his clothes off while his opponent just stands there and watches.

[Voodoo Magic]

The Predator definitely has the better and more notable cast, but I feel it set my expectations too high for that in that I expected a more charismatic cast. Where AVPR the only person I recognized was Rickety Cricket, and that sets the bar for what I expect a lot lower in terms of memorable characters.

I thought Johnny Lewis as Ricky did a good job. It's my favorite performance of the film.