Quote from: SM on Nov 11, 2018, 09:00:32 PM
Thanks for splaining what people can and can't be critical of. We wouldn't want to have to think for ourselves.
I said nothing of the sort, I said it shouldn't have carried any weight which is very different from saying it isn't valid.
Because the film is inferior to Alien and Aliens due to other elements, whether the Alien is present or otherwise.
We know this because very similar complaints regarding the writing are levied at Alien Covenant.
The "Xenomorph" presence or lack thereof isn't the problem with the prequels.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 11, 2018, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Nov 11, 2018, 12:25:15 PM
Alien implies the presence of something foreign, you can do lots with that in Ridley Scott's universe without the necessity of Giger's monster.
Alien implies the Alien. You can't expect people to ignore 40 years of material linking the two.
You could make interesting movies in the Predator universe without the Predator - the title only implies a carnivorous animal attacking prey! It takes place in present day, with plenty of interesting dramas and conflicts happening! You could totally rebrand the Hannibal Lector movie as Predator movies! - but you'd be dumb to expect it to float.
Nah, Predator has no universe.
Besides- Prometheus did it, said "f**k the expectations" and made more moola than any of the rest.
The failure of reception beyond initial mystery box viewings- again, was in the writing- not the presence of an Alien.
People like Anthologies and are open to them as recent successful TV shows have proven.
I'm not blind, deaf and dumb- I know there's an association to Giger's Alien and rightfully so;
it's the ultimate embodiment of the title but it's not the only possible embodiment.