Quote from: TheLoneRanger on Sep 07, 2018, 05:23:23 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 07, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Thor Ragnarok is one of the best superhero films ever made, so no- you're wrong "The Lone Ranger" on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYF-3pXDF0g
No. That movie is hot f**king garbage. It doesn't take itselr seriously, because then it would then be held to higher standards.
Like most of the Marvel Studios films.
They rely on tension deflating jokes, at all times, which undercuts any sense of drama or tension. This was even an issue in a much superior film (thanks to RDJ) with Infinity War.
The jokes on occasion work on first viewing, they didn't for the vast majority of Thor 3 but the over abundance of humor make repeat viewings boring and unwatchable. When you aim to be the clown, you're not held to any standards.
It's much more difficult to take material such as Thor and treat it seriously, and get an audience to treat it seriously or invest thoroughly.
See what Christopher Nolan did for Batman, and what Zack Snyder at least had the balls to try to do with Superman.
Thor Ragnorak is shit. And thankfully all it's fluff and pointlessness is thoroughly destroyed in the very next entries opening scene in Infinity War.
Hello, Marvel/DC fan here, Thor Ragnarok is the worst mcu movie, and one of the worst superhero movies. It also is the best example of everything that disney does wrong with Marvel.
The movie is totally unrelated to Marvel, Thor, or the actual Ragnarok and it has Thor, Loki, Odin, Hulk, and Hela acting 100% out of character, the Doctor Strange scene was embarrasing, and i could make a long list of flaws and reason why the movie is bad but i dont wanna make a wall of text. And the director is a really vain person who thinks of himself as a comedy mastermind and i dislike that much ego in a person.
It says a lot that Infinity War discarded pretty much everything from it as soon as it could, it was almost like the studio making an apology for that movie.
The argument could be made that is a well made movie in the technical aspects and is entertainning, but that is all becuse it falls at everything else, specially the God awful script.
The mcu is not very consistent in quality either, we got bad movies like Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, Ant-Man & The Wasp, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 1 and 2 (part two actually would have been good if it was more serious), Iron Man 3, etcetera, problem is that disney -and audiences, but i blame disney for that- think that all superhero movies should be parodies of themselves, not taken seriously, and be as humorous as they can.
Not only that, but they use humor to kill tension and serious moment, even in Infinity War which is by far the best mcu movie and it still pretty flawed by stuff that could be fixed easily since they were writing the script. They are focusing on making light humorous movies for the whole family to consume and then forget the minute they come out of the theater instead of making actual good movies, and DC has started to do the same.
And the fanbase is pretty toxic too, which i find very ironic and funny because if they were comic book fans and not just superhero movies fans would know that they are not as good as they think, not even as standalone movies, stuff like the mcu reddit board or superherohype forum is just iugh.
Quote from: Beatnation on Sep 07, 2018, 08:55:17 PM
I knew this film would be shit, promoted as "From the director of Iron Man 3" was enough of a warning.
The guy who did not understood Iron Man, did not understood the Predator? What a twist!
All the mixed reviews and comments about the "Humorous" tone and Hicks review make me feel like i was right all along, which sucks. We got a movie that was butchered countless times to please everybody and ended up pleasing nobody, and it has not much to do with the Predator saga but with modern blockbusters. A shame, i was warming up to the idea of seeing in theaters since God know what disney is gonna destroy next.
