Quote from: T Dog on Jul 26, 2017, 01:21:18 PM
Regarding Brett everyone is forgetting that they thought the Alien was just some small rst s8zed creature.
Please don't assume that everyone here, which is loaded with Alien franchise fans, is forgetting that the chestburster / baby xenomorph was small.
- I certainly didn't forget it was about a foot / 1/3 meter long.
There is no right or wrong way to evaluate a movie.
And everyone is entitled to their own personal taste.
* Still, what this topic runs into imo is the divide between those who;
1. Love a movie at a gut level and as a result they think everything in the film is perfect.
2. Compared with viewers who can look at scenes and notice tropes and cliches. This second kind of viewer can rate such a movie highly but still can criticize it.
- First example of the second kind of viewer? Dan O'Bannon, who's credited with writing "Alien'. In the extras for "Alien" O'Bannon mentions that he didn't write the Brett death scene and he didn't like it. It was about a character (Brett) getting separated from the group and going to the basement to get killed.
- Splitting up the group and wandering on one's own is a standard horror film trope.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LetsSplitUpGang- I can also criticize a film that I like.
1. Since the moment i saw "Alien' in 1979 i knew that Brett leaving the group to find the cat was a horror film cliche.
2. A foot long creature / the chestburster (which looked hostile and had pointed teeth) can still be very dangerous.
- A foot long snake in our world can deliver a vicious bite. And an unknown creature could be poisonous or carry a pathogen.
3. From the large sets (which have ventilation shafts) and the limited range of the motion tracking device, i knew there was no way that the team was certain that the baby xenomorph was not behind them.
4. I knew the moment that Brett left the group that he was an expendable character.
Here are a couple of tropes which address that.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirthttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SacrificialLamb** Importantly, there is nothing wrong with people reacting to movies in different ways.
- I rate "Alien" in the top 10 of my all time science fiction movie list.