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[Corporal Hicks]

I'd rather just die than be alive and stuck with the kind of bills the US have to pay for healthcare.

[HuDaFuK]

Yeah, the American hatred (not from all quarters, obviously) of some kind of national health system just baffles me.

Why would you not want the safety net of guaranteed, free medical assistance?

[Voodoo Magic]

Except ambulances don't require health insurance.

True.  They'll just send the entire bill directly to you after the fact.

Came here to post this. How the f**k is someone who can't afford insurance supposed to afford an ambulance? inb4 Voodoo with "better to be in debt and alive", straight up suck a whole bag of dicks on that one. That is not how a moral society behaves.

In after cancerblack assumes he knows the facts again.

I believe all ambulance services should be taxpayer funded, like police and fire.

[The Old One]

He's top tier though.

[Huggs]

Everybody cries about the prices until they walk into a hospital and realize just how many high paying jobs are being performed, floor by floor by floor. It's a business like anything else. Medical personnel aren't going to go into massive debt and endure years of college plus a lifetime of continuing education all for minimum wage.

So sure, let the government take it over and make things more "reasonable". All that'll lead to is a surge in Art History majors.

There are bigger scams running than in healthcare. Go pay $500 for one used textbook and tell me my $200 ultrasound (without insurance) was bad.

It just baffles my mind how people in America look around the their increasingly debilitated homes, roads, hospitals, schools, etc. and STILL come to the conclusion "yeah, we need to cut more taxes AND deregulate more." We're not going to be the first empire to collapse from universal greed, though.

Yes, because taxing poor people even more solves everything. Just send the politicians all the money. They spend it so wisely. Still waiting to hear about all those windmills and art grants they proposed and how that will help defeat the corona virus.

[Samhain13]

Everybody cries about the prices until they walk into a hospital and realize just how many high paying jobs are being performed, floor by floor by floor. It's a business like anything else. Medical personnel aren't going to go into massive debt and endure years of college plus a lifetime of continuing education all for minimum wage.

Some seem to believe others owe them their service or that others should be forced to pay for it. Such self-entitlement.

[razeak]

No Democrat or Republican leaning government has fixed it. Not going to. I didn't see healthcare get magically better under any president, Senate or house. It changed, but the pendulum swings good or bad for different people each administration.

We can cry over Trump or Obama all we want, but if the BS added to the stimulus bill doesn't show you it's not just one side of the aisle, I don't know what will. Our entire government is a disease, not just whatever side sounds like they align with your ideals. Love or hate him, think he's a part or he isn't, one thing Trump got right is that it's a swamp.

Other nations aren't so rosy either. The commonality is corruption through and through, whether it's the U.S., the EU, the UK or anyone else. It's all rife with problems where common people suffer and no one has any moral superiority over the other. It's just in different areas. Orange Man Bad, Obamanation, neither hysterics helped anything.

Cthulhu '20 haha

*Not directed at anyone or any single party, just thoughts on the whole mess in general.

[Huggs]

There's more pork in Washington than silicone in a Kardashian @$$crack.

I love it when people cry about needing to raise taxes even more. Giving more money to Washington is like giving money to your drug addict cousin for "groceries".

But you know, gotta finance those studies on monkey feces trajectory. And windmills, gotta have them windmills.

[Samhain13]

I love it when people cry about needing to raise taxes even more. Giving more money to Washington is like giving money to your drug addict cousin for "groceries".

But you know, gotta finance those studies on monkey feces trajectory. And windmills, gotta have them windmills.

Its like a host wanting its parasite to have more.

[Gr33n M4n]

The government is bad at spending your money and nobody wants a big tax hike. The last thing the U.S. government needs is more money, god knows.

[Huggs]

I keep telling people, even though these are bad times, we're in the midst of the ultimate learning experience. It's illuminating every single fault in our healthcare system, our government, and ourselves.

Now's the time to learn and remember who did what, and where all the deficiencies are.

[Local Trouble]

Everybody cries about the prices until they walk into a hospital and realize just how many high paying jobs are being performed, floor by floor by floor. It's a business like anything else. Medical personnel aren't going to go into massive debt and endure years of college plus a lifetime of continuing education all for minimum wage.

So sure, let the government take it over and make things more "reasonable". All that'll lead to is a surge in Art History majors.

But only in America, right?  It works in other countries, but it can't work in the US for reasons, right?

[SM]

Yeah, the American hatred (not from all quarters, obviously) of some kind of national health system just baffles me.

Why would you not want the safety net of guaranteed, free medical assistance?

sOcIaLiSm!!!

[The Old One]

Every other developed country uses a form of universal healthcare, it works and yes every human being deserves it for free regardless of status, I don't see the complicated part.

[Local Trouble]

Apparently nobody in the US will aspire to become doctors without the motivation of getting rich.

And yet, there are other STEM jobs that require just as much or even more education than medical doctors do and don't pay tons of cash, but people still do them.  Go figure.