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[Kimarhi]

Healthcare in America is a joke. 

Last year when I had two hundred test for high blood pressure that cost like ten thouasand dollars and the f**kers STILL never found out what was up made me realize how much of a money making racket it is.

I'm all about making money, but damn, that shit was blatant.

[Local Trouble]

That's why a big part of universal health care should be drastic cost-reduction.  We're currently being gouged by pharmaceutical companies, for example.

But hey, unfettered corporate profiteering is what's making America great again.  Anything else would be godless socialism.

[Kimarhi]

I don't mind a capitalist system in healthcare as long as the shit is regulated by someone with authority to stop the blatant thieving that goes on with it.  If you want to pay for the best, then that should be your prerogative, but everybody else shouldn't have to pay for the best, and get trash doctors who f**king bend you over for substandard healthcare either.  I shouldn't live in podunk kentucky and pay like I'm getting plastic surgery in beverly hills to have somebody check my blood pressure. 



At first I really liked my doc, but then the fool had me run test after test where NOTHING was wrong and I ended up wanting to hit him in the throat.  I've since started doing cardio and eating f**king green things and limited salt intake and low and behold.

[Local Trouble]

Aren't you covered by the VA?

[Shinawi]

This shows how much this pandemic is affecting the world:

[Kimarhi]

Aren't you covered by the VA?

I just use my own insurance.  VA doesn't cover reservist after they are out unless it is service related.

[Gr33n M4n]

The FBI killed a man that plotted to bomb a hospital in Kansas City that was providing care to Covid-19 victims.

[Kradan]

Rough

[[cancerblack]]

Except ambulances don't require health insurance.

True.  They'll just send the entire bill directly to you after the fact.

Came here to post this. How the f**k is someone who can't afford insurance supposed to afford an ambulance? inb4 Voodoo with "better to be in debt and alive", straight up suck a whole bag of dicks on that one. That is not how a moral society behaves.

[Local Trouble]

I had a life-threatening medical emergency back in 2004 which occurred almost exactly a month after I obtained health insurance (via a new job after a period of unemployment).  Had I not been insured when that happened, I'd have been stuck with a bill for over $150k and would still be paying it off to this day.

Moreover, this was years before Obamacare happened and I probably would have been denied coverage after the fact because it would have fallen under the definition of a pre-existing condition.

The fact that anyone still defends the patient-fleecing, price-gouging, for-profit corporate health care system in the US baffles the shit out of me.

[Kradan]

Except ambulances don't require health insurance.

True.  They'll just send the entire bill directly to you after the fact.

Came here to post this. How the f**k is someone who can't afford insurance supposed to afford an ambulance? inb4 Voodoo with "better to be in debt and alive", straight up suck a whole bag of dicks on that one. That is not how a moral society behaves.

Well, I guess "being alive and in debt" is better than " being dead and in no debt " but worse than " being alive and in no debt"

[SiL]

There are absolutely people who would argue that being alive and in debt, and its longterm affects, is not strictly preferable to the idea of being dead and in no debt.

Unfortunately some of them are dead, because they decided to follow through on that thought.

[[cancerblack]]

There are absolutely people who would argue that being alive and in debt, and its longterm affects, is not strictly preferable to the idea of being dead and in no debt.

Unfortunately some of them are dead, because they decided to follow through on that thought.

Agreed, and as awful as it is, and regardless of how much I advise against suicide or ignoring health issues (CB says: don't do it!), I can't fully call them wrong either. Those people are victims of broken systems.

Except ambulances don't require health insurance.

True.  They'll just send the entire bill directly to you after the fact.

Came here to post this. How the f**k is someone who can't afford insurance supposed to afford an ambulance? inb4 Voodoo with "better to be in debt and alive", straight up suck a whole bag of dicks on that one. That is not how a moral society behaves.

Well, I guess "being alive and in debt" is better than " being dead and in no debt " but worse than " being alive and in no debt"

Depends how f**ked your situation was beforehand. For some people $10k debt is inconvenient, for some it's world-ending. See above.

[Necronomicon II]

Except ambulances don't require health insurance.

True.  They'll just send the entire bill directly to you after the fact.

Came here to post this. How the f**k is someone who can't afford insurance supposed to afford an ambulance? inb4 Voodoo with "better to be in debt and alive", straight up suck a whole bag of dicks on that one. That is not how a moral society behaves.

Profit and servitude above human value my friend. What can go wrong. 

[InterAlien]

Better have conditions this time.  I don't trust corporations not to use it to do stock buybacks while laying off their employees.  Again.

We would, but Americans think common sense finance laws are tantamount to ~socialism~. Sorry.

I like you, guy. A filthy lefty and an AR fan to boot, you are my homie.

It just baffles my mind how people in America look around the their increasingly debilitated homes, roads, hospitals, schools, etc. and STILL come to the conclusion "yeah, we need to cut more taxes AND deregulate more." We're not going to be the first empire to collapse from universal greed, though.