In The News

Started by DoomRulz, Nov 30, 2012, 03:53:46 AM

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Hubbs

Hubbs

#12900
Eagle, I just read through related articles and checked some peoples tweets. The 'liberal' students almost started a riot simply to stop an invited speaker and free speech. They didn't even give the guy a chance, they basically acted like terrorists and are now calling for their uni presidents job! lol! Like what did he even do??  These people are not open minded liberals, you don't act like this when you don't agree with other people. Sorry Eagle but you are just sticking up for this PC baloney because you know you have to, but you know this is wrong.

The fact you even say they should of let him speak because, he's just peddling right wing news, would resort to name calling, and hinting at him simply being a neo Nazi, just proves my point, and everyone else's disgusted by this in the articles. Your mindset is totally warped, you are against free speech just like the rest, unless its free speech you agree with.

I am shocked that some professors even orchestrated this, the 'pan-African' professor for one, and of course the BLM had their dirty hands involved again.

SpreadEagleBeagle

SpreadEagleBeagle

#12901
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 29, 2016, 05:10:18 AM
Eagle, I just read through related articles and checked some peoples tweets. The 'liberal' students almost started a riot simply to stop an invited speaker and free speech. They didn't even give the guy a chance, they basically acted like terrorists and are now calling for their uni presidents job! lol! Like what did he even do??  These people are not open minded liberals, you don't act like this when you don't agree with other people. Sorry Eagle but you are just sticking up for this PC baloney because you know you have to, but you know this is wrong.

First of all, do yourself a favor and stop slapping "PC" to everything all the time - makes it hard to take you seriously. Like I said before, it makes it sound like you have no idea what you're talking about the way you're throwing it around.

Second of all, if you bothered to actually read what I wrote, you'll see that I think that the students overreacted and then some. I know that Ben Shapiro is a total dick, but he was invited to speak and they had the golden opportunity to ask him questions and debate him...but they didn't. They screwed up. Missed opportunity. But worst of all they made Shapiro look like a martyr and an underdog, and they threw him a whole stockpile of ammo.


QuoteThe fact you even say they should of let him speak because, he's just peddling right wing news and hinting at him simply being a neo Nazi, just proves my point, and everyone else disgusted by this in the articles. Your mindset is totally warped, you are against free speech just like the rest, unless its free speech you agree with.

Whoa... Easy now. I NEVER compared him to a Nazi. Re-read what I wrote - I actually "defended" the guy, saying that the students overreacted since he is NOT a neo-Nazi but just a mere Faux News off-shoot.

If anyone's mindset is warped it's yours. I know you're in good company now since you're being backed up by Broughtpain & Co, but they're not "everyone else" - they're the far right squad (and right-wing libertarians) here at the forums, which by the way seem to live here in News and Political News forum... You guys bog these threads, patting each others' backs, and then when people interrupt your winger bro'fest you all get a little weirded out. Nothing wrong with that. I guess you've made these parts of the forum your home by now.

And buddy, stop putting words in my mouth.


QuoteI am shocked that some professors even orchestrated this, the 'pan-African' professor for one, and of course the BLM had their dirty hands involved again.

And there you go again, Hubbs - the Master Troll.

Hubbs

Hubbs

#12902
But mate, you think everything is far right wing  ;D everything!

You say you didn't support the students and they messed up, but only in not engaging this bloke in conversation, just so they could knock him down. In other words you simply want to support a negative aspect without considering that it might not be negative. Just like these students automatically assumed this talk would be negative.

You don't really acknowledge the dreadful, spoilt, entitled behaviour that bordered on violence, by these students. That's not 'messing up', that's a serious act of oppression/tyranny/terror etc...basically, stopping many other students and profs that wanted to listen to the talker. A serious issue across America right now which could well end up in tears at this rate.

I might add that reading this one professors tweets, I can't believe she is still employed at this uni, she's virtually an extremist! Calling all students to protest and calling for the Presidents job etc...and she's supposed to be setting an example to the students!

HuDaFuK

HuDaFuK

#12903
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2016, 07:14:28 PMhttp://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-02-28/father-ted-actor-frank-kelly-dies-aged-77

And another one.  :-\

This really sucks. I love Father Ted and I'd be lying if I said Jack wasn't my favourite character. It was so ironic how well-spoken and charming Kelly was in real life, when in the show he plays a vile, lecherous creature.

Whiskeybrewer

Whiskeybrewer

#12904
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 29, 2016, 08:38:43 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2016, 07:14:28 PMhttp://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-02-28/father-ted-actor-frank-kelly-dies-aged-77

And another one.  :-\

This really sucks. I love Father Ted and I'd be lying if I said Jack wasn't my favourite character. It was so ironic how well-spoken and charming Kelly was in real life, when in the show he plays a vile, lecherous creature.

I remember his appearence in Season four of Lexx. It completely threw me when i realise it was Father Jack


SpreadEagleBeagle

SpreadEagleBeagle

#12906
QuoteBut mate, you think everything is far right wing   everything!

Left (wing) and right (wing) are ACTUAL political labels and directions on the political spectrum, and people actually apply to them and to what they entail.

PC (Political Correctness) on the other hand is a mangled and by now hollow term solely used to ridicule and heckle. As soon as someone question your intolerant views you can swiftly label that person as PC and undertake the role as the victim (the victim of not being allowed to behave an insensitive bigoted asshole in public that is). Nobody would really identify themselves as PC or say that they are straight up PC as PC only has negative connotations, it's NOT a neutral term.


QuoteYou say you didn't support the students and they messed up, but only in not engaging this bloke in conversation, just so they could knock him down.

He is a well-known propaganda guy and ideologue. He knows that people know who he is and what he stands for. To be asked rough questions and heated debating during the Q&A should not be a surprise to him.

I never promoted interrupting his speech or anything like that. Let him speak and let there be a debate afterwards. I'm sure his ideological peers in the crowd will cheer for him and back him up.


QuoteIn other words you simply want to support a negative aspect without considering that it might not be negative. Just like these students automatically assumed this talk would be negative.

Ben Shapiro is not a neutral character, he is more or less a public figure very vocal about his political standing. He is heavily opinionated and thus people will be heavily opinionated about him. It shouldn't be a shocker.

If, let's say, Arianna Huffington was invited to a conservative leaning college, I'm sure she would grilled during the question segment as well.
The difference is that those kind of schools never invite.


QuoteYou don't really acknowledge the dreadful, spoilt, entitled behaviour that bordered on violence, by these students. That's not 'messing up', that's a serious act of oppression/tyranny/terror etc...basically, stopping many other students and profs that wanted to listen to the talker.

What is there to talk about? It's obvious that what they did was not ok. But I'm not gonna sit here and lament it with you guys while you're trying to build this hollow case. Again, downright disingenuous and falsely compassionate of you.


QuoteA serious issue across America right now which could well end up in tears at this rate.

No bigger issue now than earlier. The difference is that some people on the left (mostly kids) have become more aggressive, confrontative and loud as they have learned from the best (the right). Conservatives in this country have muffled and persecuted people without consequences forever. I'm not saying that this kind of behavior is ok and that it should be condoned, but I'm not surprised. It's sad. What's even sadder is how these isolated cases are portrayed as the norm, as if they are significant.


QuoteI might add that reading this one professors tweets, I can't believe she is still employed at this uni, she's virtually an extremist! Calling all students to protest and calling for the Presidents job etc...and she's supposed to be setting an example to the students!

Yes, teachers and professors should always try to be neutral and never push their views on the kids. They should promote critical thinking and constructive discussions and discourses. You are entitled your own view and opinion as a teacher, but keep it clear that it is of no importance in the classroom or at school in general.

As an anecdote, one of my economics teachers in high-school was a Laissez Faire right-wing Libertarian and was kind of in your face about it and wanted us all to read "Fountain Head", almost as if it was mandatory. Needless to say he had to quit as he overstepped his boundaries countless times. I remember that that the Libertarian students protested and since they were many in my school for some reason they were strong and loud and they dominated the discussions. I think a lot of people joined them because of their vocal pro-pot stance. Literal gateway drug to the rest if the ideology one might say. The liberals at my school were wusses - they did not stand up for our art teacher who came out as gay. When it later on showed up that he was a socialist too, people used that to get him transferred, even though he never pushed his views on any of us. Now this was in the 90s mind you.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#12907
Both of you know that there is a political news thread for a reason. I don't mind reading the political banter over there. This thread should be left for death and kitten rescues.

Although I admit that Trump is a hard one, he's more entertainment than politics... then again there is a Trump thread as it is. :P

SpreadEagleBeagle

SpreadEagleBeagle

#12908
Yeah, I know... Sorry about that. I'll try to keep myself from replying to political topics on this thread. And yeah, let's contain the Donald to the Trump thread only, where he belongs.

SpreadEagleBeagle

SpreadEagleBeagle

#12909
Quote from: Hubbs on Mar 01, 2016, 05:18:17 AM
I get mixed up on which to post what in  :P

Really? Hmmm...


QuoteThis is terrifying, AND this is Russia, where they don't put up with nonsense or migrants. So if its happening there, what in God's name will happen in Europe?! More evidence to leave the EU everyday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35685981

Migrants break down fence trying to force their way into Macedonia
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35687257

France FINALLY clearing the 'jungle'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35686209

The government is trying to encourage people to relocate to official accommodation provided inside converted shipping containers nearby. But most have refused the offer, fearing they'll be forced to claim asylum in France.

Prime example of the migrant lies, why are they so against asylum in a good country like France? because they want UK benefits, that's why.

...And then, right away, you post a butt-load of POLITICAL news in the REGULAR news thread - AGAIN.

Rule of thumb - if your news article is about political issues and politically charged hot topics, it belongs in the Political News Thread. Lunar eclipses, dead celebrities, technological advances, scientific discoveries etc. is more in the vein of this thread.

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#12910
You two should get married. It's as they say, opposites attack.  :laugh:

SpreadEagleBeagle

SpreadEagleBeagle

#12911
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 01, 2016, 06:01:16 AM
You two should get married. It's as they say, opposites attack.  :laugh:

Oh you!  :P  :D

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#12912
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Mar 01, 2016, 05:48:59 AM
...And then, right away, you post a butt-load of POLITICAL news in the REGULAR news thread - AGAIN.

Rule of thumb - if your news article is about political issues and politically charged hot topics, it belongs in the Political News Thread. Lunar eclipses, dead celebrities, technological advances, scientific discoveries etc. is more in the vein of this thread.

As Eagle says. Please follow this train of thought.

Whiskeybrewer

Whiskeybrewer

#12913
George Kennedy or Cool Hand Luke and Naked Gun has passed away at the age of 91


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