Prometheus Fan Reviews

Started by Darkness, May 30, 2012, 05:46:52 AM

In short, what did you think of the film?

Loved it! (5/5)
143 (32.2%)
Good, but not great (4/5)
149 (33.6%)
It was okay, nothing good (3/5)
69 (15.5%)
Didn't care for it (2/5)
30 (6.8%)
It sucked (1/5)
27 (6.1%)
Hated it! (0/5)
26 (5.9%)

Total Members Voted: 441

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8thPassenger

8thPassenger

#930
Quote from: szkoki on Jun 10, 2012, 09:09:50 AM
i watched it 3rd times , Fassbender was right, it is complex as f*ck

there are a lot of themes are going on

- creation /human and robot aswell/
- the robot-human relationship like in blade runner
- David-Holloway-Shaw triangle
- David-Vickers-Weyland triangle
- plus the action

this movie is basicly about David  :P

I agree, there is a lot going on.

But is it entirely a good thing? I for one would have liked the movie to focus on certain things and ditch others completely.

szkoki

szkoki

#931
Quote from: 8thPassenger on Jun 10, 2012, 09:12:06 AM
Quote from: szkoki on Jun 10, 2012, 09:09:50 AM
i watched it 3rd times , Fassbender was right, it is complex as f*ck

there are a lot of themes are going on

- creation /human and robot aswell/
- the robot-human relationship like in blade runner
- David-Holloway-Shaw triangle
- David-Vickers-Weyland triangle
- plus the action

this movie is basicly about David  :P

I agree, there is a lot going on.

But is it entirely a good thing? I for one would have liked the movie to focus on certain things and ditch others completely.

its not good for those who was expecting another ALIENish movie...what is totally accepttable i was also hoping for that because of the trailrers but we got a totally different movie, not horror at all, i like it though if you get rid of the thought of Alien at all

they did what those guys did whit Solaris, i dunno have you seen it or not but if you look at this trailer and look at the movie its totally different

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4sJA-E51bQ#ws

its totally not an action -thriller-horror but a beautiful story imo

Blacklabel

Blacklabel

#932
This is just worth noticing..

author Jeff Vandermeer literary critic and author and editor (he of the Ambergris cycle and "Predator: South China Seas" fame, alongside anthologies on steampunk and weird fiction.) just declared his undying love for Prometheus and decided this film is better than Aliens (wich he decries as militaristic bullshit.) 

You decide if he's right or not. :P

ChrisPachi

ChrisPachi

#933
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jun 10, 2012, 12:39:50 PM
This is just worth noticing..

author Jeff Vandermeer literary critic and author and editor (he of the Ambergris cycle and "Predator: South China Seas" fame, alongside anthologies on steampunk and weird fiction.) just declared his undying love for Prometheus and decided this film is better than Aliens (wich he decries as militaristic bullshit.) 

You decide if he's right or not. :P

He's wrong.

szkoki

szkoki

#934
why even have to compare the movies???
Spoiler
btw there is no such alien movie that can beat a porn
[close]

Darth Vile

Darth Vile

#935
I voted for 'loved it', which I sort of do after 3 viewings... but I don't think it's a 'great' movie, or the best Alien movie.  ;D


Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 10, 2012, 03:39:34 AM
There is no answer for it. But it isnt big enough of a plot point to delve into it.
I guess you can say it was a cheap excuse to move the characters into the room but it could have been a glitch.

To me it's quite clear what the 'ping' is... It's the engineer in his cryo sleep. The plot point itself serves 2 purposes...
1) It actually makes F'Field and Milburn make the wrong choice i.e. they head in the opposite direction and end up back at the ampule room... big mistake.
2) The 'ping' gives David the opportunity to explore 'off-piste' so to speak. He goes under the guise of locating and fixing the probe, but he's actually using it as an excuse to find something else i.e. the route to the control room...

And if we want to argue conveniences and gaps in logic... the Dallas hunting the xeno in the cooling ducts is a good example.
1) If Dallas is going into an area with multiple levels, what good is a tracker that works only in 2D? It actually just worked to confuse him. Anyone with half a brain would understand that it's pretty much useless unless you're stood right in front of it... and by that point you'd be dead anyway. Also - does the tracker only detect moving objects in front of it? If so, another reason why it's feckin useless... as I'd want to know what was sneaking up on me.

2) Given point number 1... Surely it would make much more sense for 2 people to go into the ducts so one could have the other's back??? Dallas was a feckin moron. Now I get that they may want to portray it that the ducts/vents were only big enough for a single person, but in the movie it's clearly big enough for 2...

3) Why, when the xeno attacks Dallas, do we getting a second of a distorted video screen footage? Whose screen was that? Was Dallas carrying a camera? No he wasn't... it was just done for dramatic effect. Still, if you think about it, it doesn't make sense.

DaddyYautja

DaddyYautja

#936
Quote from: Mohawksinspace on Jun 10, 2012, 08:17:36 AM
If Milburn/Fifield were off doing there own thing and didnt have their helmets/coms activated its easy to conceive they missed the run like hell message.
add in the fact that the place was huge so even if they got the message there is a chance they are not fast enough to make it to the vehicles.


Why would people that are lost not have their communications open?
Why werent they asking for help?
If their coms where off why didnt anyone at base call to the other group to get some one from there to try to contact them or look for them?

What you are saying is pretty much that on a exploration mission in a distant planet some people just went on off their own and no one bothered.

Quote from: Darth Vile on Jun 10, 2012, 01:07:55 PM

To me it's quite clear what the 'ping' is... It's the engineer in his cryo sleep. The plot point itself serves 2 purposes...
1) It actually makes F'Field and Milburn make the wrong choice i.e. they head in the opposite direction and end up back at the ampule room... big mistake.
2) The 'ping' gives David the opportunity to explore 'off-piste' so to speak. He goes under the guise of locating and fixing the probe, but he's actually using it as an excuse to find something else i.e. the route to the control room...

Oh is that it?
I didnt make that connection because there were many of those devices floating around and that one was stuck two rooms away from the map room. I didnt think the device could detect things through the walls at such distance since it was using lasers to map stuff.

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And if we want to argue conveniences and gaps in logic... the Dallas hunting the xeno in the cooling ducts is a good example.
1) If Dallas is going into an area with multiple levels, what good is a tracker that works only in 2D? It actually just worked to confuse him. Anyone with half a brain would understand that it's pretty much useless unless you're stood right in front of it... and by that point you'd be dead anyway. Also - does the tracker only detect moving objects in front of it? If so, another reason why it's feckin useless... as I'd want to know what was sneaking up on me.

Im guessing you are creating this argument because the effects used where shown for the detector where in 2d right?
Why would you base an argument on that?

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2) Given point number 1... Surely it would make much more sense for 2 people to go into the ducts so one could have the other's back??? Dallas was a feckin moron. Now I get that they may want to portray it that the ducts/vents were only big enough for a single person, but in the movie it's clearly big enough for 2...

Yeah, i guess having some one else to cover the back makes sense. But does doing that make it a plot goof? Or does it show that these space truckers are in fact.... space truckers and not experts at hunting alien life? Besides, he had the tracker to tell him where the monsters was supposed to be coming from which sort of negates having some one there since he was supposed to be told where exactly the monster was coming from.

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3) Why, when the xeno attacks Dallas, do we getting a second of a distorted video screen footage? Whose screen was that? Was Dallas carrying a camera? No he wasn't... it was just done for dramatic effect. Still, if you think about it, it doesn't make sense.

Wasnt that the tracker? That's the only screen we are shown in that part of the movie.

newbeing

newbeing

#937
I thought it was good, but ultimately disappointing due to plot holes, unneeded elements and jumps in logic.

mastermoon

mastermoon

#938
The main flaw Ridley Scott did was cramming too much unanswered questions, maybe he was wanting to have as much Ideas thrown in as possible.

Ridley Scott should of redused the number of unanswered questions.

But I still enjoyed the movie.

Ratchetcomand

Ratchetcomand

#939
Here is Chester A. Bum's review :laugh:

http://blip.tv/bum-reviews/bum-reviews-prometheus-6195477

Doug Walker also posted his full opinion on the movie.

http://blip.tv/bum-reviews/doug-walker-reviews-prometheus-6195495

szkoki

szkoki

#940
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 10, 2012, 02:50:48 PM
Quote from: Mohawksinspace on Jun 10, 2012, 08:17:36 AM
If Milburn/Fifield were off doing there own thing and didnt have their helmets/coms activated its easy to conceive they missed the run like hell message.
add in the fact that the place was huge so even if they got the message there is a chance they are not fast enough to make it to the vehicles.


Why would people that are lost not have their communications open?
Why werent they asking for help?
If their coms where off why didnt anyone at base call to the other group to get some one from there to try to contact them or look for them?



geez have you never been in an alien pyramid on an alien planet??  ;D ;D

Ratchetcomand

Ratchetcomand

#941

Gash

Gash

#942
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jun 10, 2012, 12:39:50 PM
This is just worth noticing..

author Jeff Vandermeer literary critic and author and editor (he of the Ambergris cycle and "Predator: South China Seas" fame, alongside anthologies on steampunk and weird fiction.) just declared his undying love for Prometheus and decided this film is better than Aliens (wich he decries as militaristic bullshit.) 

You decide if he's right or not. :P

Ah well, for sure no disappointment could match that of the sinking depression of being in the cinema in 1986. Now there is the personification of 'lazy writing.'

Spidey3121

Spidey3121

#943
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jun 10, 2012, 05:29:55 PM
Another good video review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sC1tBhIOeI#ws

I loved the animated recap of the Alien Saga. It's also a pretty fair lego analogy they use when comparing Prometheus to those other films. Though, in earnest, I feel as if Prometheus fits better than Alien Resurrection does. And i loved their hilarious mispronunciations of Noomi Rapace :laugh:

Darth Vile

Darth Vile

#944
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 10, 2012, 02:50:48 PM

Oh is that it?
I didnt make that connection because there were many of those devices floating around and that one was stuck two rooms away from the map room. I didnt think the device could detect things through the walls at such distance since it was using lasers to map stuff.
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That's my assumption based on the location of the the 'ping' i.e. off the the cargo hold/map room. Ridley may have another explanation...  ;)

Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 10, 2012, 02:50:48 PM

Im guessing you are creating this argument because the effects used where shown for the detector where in 2d right?
Why would you base an argument on that?
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Because that's what the movie seemed to be depicting i.e. it couldn't tell you if the signal was above you or beneath you...

Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 10, 2012, 02:50:48 PM
Yeah, i guess having some one else to cover the back makes sense. But does doing that make it a plot goof? Or does it show that these space truckers are in fact.... space truckers and not experts at hunting alien life? Besides, he had the tracker to tell him where the monsters was supposed to be coming from which sort of negates having some one there since he was supposed to be told where exactly the monster was coming from.
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As above... I think it's fairly obvious that the tracker can't tell you if the object is above, beneath or behind. Dallas going alone doesn't make sense given that they know the alien can take a man down - You could excuse it if the vents were only big enough for one person. However, the film establishes that the vents are certainly big enough for 2 (although a squeeze).

Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 10, 2012, 02:50:48 PM
Wasnt that the tracker? That's the only screen we are shown in that part of the movie.

I believe it's the same video feed footage used for the the approach to the derelict. But if the intent was to indeed show the signal failing on the tracker - why? Did the xeno interfere with electrical devices a la the derelict?

So I'm obviously being overly picky in my examples... but I'm just trying to demonstrate that it's more than easy to pick holes... even in the better movies. It's just a question of wether some of the contradictions/gaps in logic/conveniences are enough to spoil the movie, or wether one is willing to overlook them because the rest of the ride is worth it.

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