Quote from: JKS1 on Nov 30, 2011, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Nov 30, 2011, 05:46:35 AM
For flying spaceships and landscapes CGI is perfect though. The crashing 'thing' in the trailer will be CGI, no doubt about it, and it will look amazing. I just don't know why film makers would bother building spaceship models or doing matte paintings anymore - CGI supersedes them for level of detail and image quality.
I'm not sure I agree with you on the point that CGI supersedes models/matte paintings when depicting landscapes, in terms of detail/image quality
For me its all about realism - do I believe that what I'm looking at is 'really there', solid and has that correct sense of scale
So far I've yet to see any CGI depicted landscape that comes even close to inspiring the same feeling of awe and 'realness' as the matte painting/model combination used in the opening sequence of Blade Runner
Can you give me an example of any similarly futuristic/fantasy/sci-fi type landscape imagery thats equally as 'real' or 'solid' looking as this, yet CGI ?
All thats coming to my mind are the obvious CGI of the Colosseum shots in 'Gladiator', the obvious CGI in 'Titanic' and 'Avatar' and the hideous overkill and screamingly obvious CGI in Star Wars I,II and III
(Not to mention the complete and utterly shitty and obvious CGI effects in the green lantern)
So, please, some examples of scenes and movies where the CGI depicted landscapes and spaceships arent obviously CGI and really make you believe youre looking at something or some place thats real and solid and not a glorified cartoon ?
That´s the problem, that even if I see a mate painting that its a shit, or a guy in a obvious latex costume, or a obvius miniature etc. I believe it, because its THERE, its real, exists. CGI when its bad done (99% times) I just dont believe it...It takes me out of the movie, it irritiates me.
There is but, one thing that irritates me a lot of practical FX, that is the blue screen, or front/rear projection Like in Aliens when the dropship is entering the clouds of LV-426 or the Procesing Station. But its never as much irritating than crappy CGI.
Also, all this CGI crazynes has another problem for me, and its that the director is not on a set, directing, the director is watching a guy drawing shit in a computer! there is actually no direction there a lot of times...so...its that a real movie or a cartoon movie? too many times the too worlds get mixed. You see real people inside a cartoon movie. Its like Roger Rabit but unintentioned, and this kills me.
Anyway, i have much more tolerance for crappy CGI landscapes than for crappy CGI Characters:
Any chreature at STAR WARS, king kong, the monster at Super 8, 70% of the chreatures of Lord of the Rings (specially gollum), everything at AVATAR, all chreatures from Harry Potter, the swimming aliens, all the aliens at the end of A.I. , aliens at War of the Worlds, the jumping siderman, the running monkeys from The Rise of the Planet of the Apes, The Thing, the sharks from Deep Blue sea (poor harlin) , etc.etc. All those (and so many others), made me hate this movies. Every time one of those appeard on screen, I was expelled inexorably from the movie.