Pacific Rim films

[Eva]

Star Wars and Indiana Jones probably had just as much logical fallacies.

Did you want incredible waterproof hard science fiction in a fun adventure film that plays out like a saturday morning cartoon?

No, not at all, but the whole premise of the film seems deeply flawed, when you can think of 10 other ways the humans in the film could battle the kaiju with a much higher chance of success, than what the humans in the film are doing.

Why don't they just nuke the rift whenever activity is detected? The film shows us that nukes kills the kaiju easily and we know exactly where the rift is. Why do the humans build 1000s of km walls around their shores, when they could just contain the rift location instead with much less effort and materials? etc etc etc....

[Gilfryd]

Unlike films such as District 9, Pacific Rim wasn't solid/good enough of a movie to just be a stand alone film.

What?

D9 ends with an alien going off saying he'll be back in three years and the main character and all the other aliens are sent to an even worse place to live.

Pac Rim has all the monsters beaten, the aliens blown up, the portal sealed and a happy ending with no sequel hook bullshit.

[ShadowPred]

Why don't they just nuke the rift whenever activity is detected? The film shows us that nukes kills the kaiju easily and we know exactly where the rift is. Why do the humans build 1000s of km walls around their shores, when they could just contain the rift location instead with much less effort and materials? etc etc etc....

They couldn't just nuke the rift, because it wouldn't work like that. Only Kaiju can successfully go through the rift. Which is why Gipsy Danger basically had to use that Slattern as an ID card in order to get through.

Humans are building the walls because it is much cheaper than funding the Jaeger Program, it also serves as a sense of security to get the people in the mindset that everything is going to be alright. It also allows for the common man, those who participate to build the wall, to have a sense of purpose, for them to feel that they too are doing something to save the world of the Kaiju threat. Containing the rift being around it isn't going to do jack when the Kaiju continue to appear at an alarming rate. You saw just how more frequent they started appearing, that mixed with the fact that the program was not being funded anymore is only going to cause everything to go to shit real fast.

[Blacklabel]

No, not at all, but the whole premise of the film seems deeply flawed, when you can think of 10 other ways

Why did the Death Star have 1 spot in it that could destroy the whole ship?

Because f**kING XWINGS VS TIE FIGHTERS, thats why?

It's comic book-y logic. Dont stress too much about it.

And the walls where shown in the film to be a result of very bad thinking by desperate politicians.. ex: the scene where the construction workers see a kaiju destroying the australian wall easily on tv.  "Why are we building this thing?".

[Eva]

Why don't they just nuke the rift whenever activity is detected? The film shows us that nukes kills the kaiju easily and we know exactly where the rift is. Why do the humans build 1000s of km walls around their shores, when they could just contain the rift location instead with much less effort and materials? etc etc etc....

They couldn't just nuke the rift, because it wouldn't work like that. Only Kaiju can successfully go through the rift. Which is why Gipsy Danger basically had to use that Slattern as an ID card in order to get through.

Humans are building the walls because it is much cheaper than funding the Jaeger Program, it also serves as a sense of security to get the people in the mindset that everything is going to be alright. It also allows for the common man, those who participate to build the wall, to have a sense of purpose, for them to feel that they too are doing something to save the world of the Kaiju threat. Containing the rift being around it isn't going to do jack when the Kaiju continue to appear at an alarming rate. You saw just how more frequent they started appearing, that mixed with the fact that the program was not being funded anymore is only going to cause everything to go to shit real fast.

I'm not talking about nuking their homeworld by going through the rift. I'm talking about nuking the kaiju when they emerge from the rift into our world. Should be relatively easy even with todays technology.

As for the walls - what is most effective and cost-effective? Building walls around entire nations and continents that would make King Kong scratch his forehead, or build one massive wall around the rift, perhaps 10 times stronger/wider than the continents walls, because this wall would require much less materials and could be built much faster than a wall surrounding a continent?

Oh I know... if they did, we wouldn't have a movie with robots kicking kaiju ass.

[Rong]

Lol at all this Hatedumb.

[KNIGHT]

Why don't they just nuke the rift whenever activity is detected? The film shows us that nukes kills the kaiju easily and we know exactly where the rift is. Why do the humans build 1000s of km walls around their shores, when they could just contain the rift location instead with much less effort and materials? etc etc etc....

They couldn't just nuke the rift, because it wouldn't work like that. Only Kaiju can successfully go through the rift. Which is why Gipsy Danger basically had to use that Slattern as an ID card in order to get through.

Humans are building the walls because it is much cheaper than funding the Jaeger Program, it also serves as a sense of security to get the people in the mindset that everything is going to be alright. It also allows for the common man, those who participate to build the wall, to have a sense of purpose, for them to feel that they too are doing something to save the world of the Kaiju threat. Containing the rift being around it isn't going to do jack when the Kaiju continue to appear at an alarming rate. You saw just how more frequent they started appearing, that mixed with the fact that the program was not being funded anymore is only going to cause everything to go to shit real fast.

I'm not talking about nuking their homeworld by going through the rift. I'm talking about nuking the kaiju when they emerge from the rift into our world. Should be relatively easy even with todays technology.

As for the walls - what is most effective and cost-effective? Building walls around entire nations and continents that would make King Kong scratch his forehead, or build one massive wall around the rift, perhaps 10 times stronger/wider than the continents walls, because this wall would require much less materials and could be built much faster than a wall surrounding a continent?

Oh I know... if they did, we wouldn't have a movie with robots kicking kaiju ass.

Yeah, then we simply would have gotten Category 5+ Kaiju sooner. Slattern survived a Nuke, it's safe to assume Kaiju higher than him would be able to do so as well, with less damage taken the higher the categories get.  Then they make their way through the wall and cause just as much damage regardless.

[Blacklabel]

"Arent you afraid of escalation?"

"Escalation?"

[OmegaZilla]

Building the wall around the Breach -- with constant risk for Monsters to come through and wipe out your work immediately.

[ShadowPred]

Why don't they just nuke the rift whenever activity is detected? The film shows us that nukes kills the kaiju easily and we know exactly where the rift is. Why do the humans build 1000s of km walls around their shores, when they could just contain the rift location instead with much less effort and materials? etc etc etc....

They couldn't just nuke the rift, because it wouldn't work like that. Only Kaiju can successfully go through the rift. Which is why Gipsy Danger basically had to use that Slattern as an ID card in order to get through.

Humans are building the walls because it is much cheaper than funding the Jaeger Program, it also serves as a sense of security to get the people in the mindset that everything is going to be alright. It also allows for the common man, those who participate to build the wall, to have a sense of purpose, for them to feel that they too are doing something to save the world of the Kaiju threat. Containing the rift being around it isn't going to do jack when the Kaiju continue to appear at an alarming rate. You saw just how more frequent they started appearing, that mixed with the fact that the program was not being funded anymore is only going to cause everything to go to shit real fast.

I'm not talking about nuking their homeworld by going through the rift. I'm talking about nuking the kaiju when they emerge from the rift into our world. Should be relatively easy even with todays technology.

As for the walls - what is most effective and cost-effective? Building walls around entire nations and continents that would make King Kong scratch his forehead, or build one massive wall around the rift, perhaps 10 times stronger/wider than the continents walls, because this wall would require much less materials and could be built much faster than a wall surrounding a continent?

Well I don't know why they didn't think of that sooner, possibly because all fallout them nukes have. The humans would have been properly screwed anyway even if they did, just look at how Leatherback suddenly had an EMP blast, the Terror from The Deep alien beings would have done something to combat any and all nuclear attacks on their Kaiju.

Also, the wall would not have been made in time, and even if it did, what's stopping from a bunch of Kaiju all piling up inside the walled up rift and breaking their way through it anyway? Nothing. Sooner or later you may even have a freaking suicide bomb Kaiju that would blow up the wall anyway from the inside.

[Blacklabel]

Building the wall around the Breach -- with constant risk for Monsters to come through and wipe out your work immediately.

Not to mention that a lot of the work would be underwater...

Now that's one great workplace with low risk.

Sign me up.

[Eva]

The film clearly demonstrates that nukes kill the kaiju. The one that was detonated above the rift, killed the remaining ones, including the cat5 one, unless I remember it wrong.

So why don't they just nuke them as soon as they are detected, one by one?

The walls wouldn't be needed, if they just nuked the kaiju at the rift in the first place.

I just don't think the writers gave it any thought. Simple as that. No need to make up reasons why this or that - it's essentially the magic egg on the Sulaco all over again.

[KNIGHT]

The film clearly demonstrates that nukes kill the kaiju. The one that was detonated above the rift, killed the remaining ones, including the cat5 one, unless I remember it wrong.

Nope. The category 5, Slattern, survived the Nuke from point blank range.

So a category 6+ would likely be able to take even more nuke damage before dying. The aliens would have gotten around the nuke problem regardless.

[Blacklabel]

..batman begins has worse plot logic than this flick in the final EVIL SCHEME to destroy Gotham. lol

still a good film, of course.

[ShadowPred]

Once Godzilla comes through the rift, the game is f**king over for the human race. END OF STORY.