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I am quite a bit apprehensive regarding this movie and where it's gonna go. Naturally I am holding my outlook on it in a neutral spectrum because I don't know anything but I don't wanna get my hopes up. We all know that Shane had an uncredited writing hand on the first movie and that makes me feel a bit hopeful but what keeps me on edge is the guy he chose to do the script.
I liked Fred Dekker and some of his works like Night of the Creeps and Monster Squad but you'd think I would be happy right? Well.. a red flag regarding Dekker is one that's got me worried is a movie Dekker never recovered from, and that's Robocop 3. For me, that movie is too hard to ignore because it killed his directorial career.
I hope my apprehension is proven wrong with this movie. I want something I can enjoy.
Don't we all?
Honestly, IMO, Predator 4 (which I would hope it is not titled officially) should start following the freaking comic story arcs. There are so many awesome stories to pick from which only actual fans know about. I feel like we got a good taste of Predator in the past from Dark Ages, which was phenomenal. I don't believe we must go down that path or similar to make a good movie.
What really concerns me is the idea that people seem to have this "been here, done that" attitude towards films. As if film makers must constantly change various elements to "freshen it up" when people seem to keep returning to the original films to enjoy over and over again! If people love the original so much, why do people insist that we need to do something different to the point where directors/producers deviate so far out that people end up disliking their work or flat out hating it?
As for Pred 4, further develop the Yautja as a species. Introduce new weaponry, new tactics, but keep the original ones and original tactics present too (cloak, mimicry, wrist blades). Show us the difference between a controlled hunt and all-out war. Have a massive battle with the Predators and US Military. Use the post-war recovery as the reason for ramping up space exploration/terraforming efforts (do something with the Yutani name finally) as an effort to preserve humanity by spreading the population out as well as the reason for creating the Colonial Marines...
The two franchises are forever intertwined so might as well make it interesting.
I love the idea of controlled hunt vs all out war. Personally I would like to see some elements from the concrete jungle novel. Maybe a quick battle between NYPD and preds. Perhaps in the struggle a few preds are wounded and captured before they can activate their wrist nuke. The remaining preds leave unaware their comrades had been captured. When they learn of this travesty they return with more advanced and more powerful weaponry. Determined to gain their tech back before it is reverse engineered to humans advantage.
At this point maybe we would see a different type of predator. Soldier based. Not something that looks different. What I mean by this is one that acts differently. He doesn't carry himself like any other pred we've seen. Not stealthy and silent but Something more aggressive and determined. Something that doesn't distinguish between armed and unarmed. It's sole purpose is destruction. Not a black super predator but perhaps more armor and heavy weapons but never cloaks. A predator that is so pumped up on adrenaline that he's batshit crazy with blood lust. And he has full auto plasma casters and plasma based tactical mini nukes.
Once the tech is recovered they decide they want to teach our race a lesson and unleash full scale war on the planet. Killing millions and pretty much decimating our military forces. Then they leave thinking all was done, completely unaware that we had managed to aquire several pieces of tech during the battle and hide it. The tech is the reverse engineered while the world is in a rebuild phase. THEN comes the world's first plasma phased pulse rifles and plasma based weapons. Other tech would include ftl travel and cloaking devices. The Colonial Maries are then created.
Sorry so long. I get to thinking about the possibilities then I get all excited....[emoji16]
For a moment, I almost disagreed, thinking that this would make the Predators just "another invading alien", but when you said "and then they leave", that actually makes sense.
It sounds like something Predators would do if they feel insulted enough. These are the galaxy's saltiest babies afterall, desecrate their rules enough and they will send the very sky crashing down on you and then leave.
No conquering, no enslaving, just leave you with your defeat and shattered pride.
Thinking about it like that, it could work, but for a movie, it would have to be executed carefully. But it'd bring something new as currently, Predators are stuck in a constant cycle of endless hunts which I don't mind, yet seeing something new doesn't seem bad.
We might see some more of their war tactics in the Rage War novels.
I agree. It would definitely have to be done very carefully. I also feel it would be best displayed if broken into at least 2 parts. If not a trilogy, definitely a duet. I feel like if it were done in one film there would be so much crammed in that when it was over, the audience couldn't really enjoy it and would feel a bit overwhelmed and underwhelmed at the same time. Personally I would do it in three parts.
The first part as the original fight and flee. I would end it on a high note with the preds in orbit realizing some of their comrades were captured and turning mid orbit while arming themselves heavily. Or someone catching a fleet of ships on a radar screen inbound at a high rate of speed opening fire at our satellite and radar arrays. Or maybe with a close up of a ship landing and a group of heavily armored soldier preds coming out on foot and with some type of heavy assault vehicles.
The second would be the all out war and decimation of mankind and our military forces. It would end with the ships leaving and a global alliance group of scientists displayed working in an underground bunker. Everyone focusing on what they're doing and then you see a predator wrist bracer or plasma caster. Then the camera pans away. As it pans you pass by several computer monitors just slow enough to glimpse blueprints of several prototype weapons and a schematic for an ftl drive engine. The camera keeps going until it enters another room filled with several people standing looking at a prototype exosuit as it fires the first plasma based human weapon. Camera pans to a 4 star general with a scarred face who smirks. Role credits.
The third film would start with narration from the general explaining what has happened. With flashbacks from the other 2 films. Then the camera would jump screen to a military testing facility still being built. Credits would come up and identity the name of the facility and x amount of years later. Cut scene to system launch checklist. As an engine fires up the camera zooms out. You see a few craft flying that look like early iterations on the dropship. You see powerloader versions of the exosuit moving crates. And then the camera speeds up the zoom out and you finally see it.... the first Conestoga class ship. From that point the film should focus on marines and prepping a crew for travel to another planet they believe is the predator home world (Which it turns out not to be). The ship and crew heads out and gets to the planet and confronts a clan. Only to find its just a game preserve. Another clan sees the attack and fires on the vessel disabling the ftl drive. Stranded on this distant planet they radio back requesting help knowing their fate is sealed. Cut scene to empty space with the transmission being played in the background. Then a spacestation being built comes into view. Dozens of dropships and smaller craft fly around working and welding. Then you see several other Conestoga class ships docked and others undocking. The camera cut scenes to a control room as an officer tells another man in a lab coat "you have a transmission from corporate." You then see him hang his coat in a hall and enter a small computer room. Then the man walks in and sits down initiating a computer. The screen lights up with the message "science officer eyes only". The man is obscured and out of focus. Then as the camera focuses he speaks as you see him for the first time. (Ash) "what's the story mother." Screen goes blank.
Credits start with opening score from alien.
Now I know alot of people don't want another cross between the series. I'm not saying the series has to cross necessarily. But I would like to use these events as a precursor for HOW wey-yu came to be in possession of such advanced technology. Nothing more. I just felt ash would make a nice Easter egg in the film. All while paying homage to another great series.
Again this is only how I personally would do it.