QuoteTying in Weyland Industries from AvP and Weyland Corp from Prometheus simply cannot work, not unless someone is willing to write and fill in the plothole or even make a good and reasonable fact for the two timelines to reconcile.
You're welcome to that opinion - there have been several threads that reconciled the Weyland thing, so if you don't like the explanations posted, that's your opinion.
QuoteThat's why I refer to the Word of God trope. It helps keeps things organized and makes sense of things.
The problem is the "word of god" idea has numerous "gods" stating their own opinions, and they don't exactly line up. You said it yourself - Antal considered 'Predator 2' to be a part of 'Predators', but Robert Rodriguez didn't.
If I'm going to defer to any "god" in this scenario, it'll be the ones who own the franchise, the ones who actually get to make the decisions regarding it, completely independent of what any other contributor has to say on the matter, and that's FOX. This is the same FOX who, after Robert Rodriguez said he was discarding the AvP films and everything AvP, specifically stepped in with the 'Predators' blu-ray and dropped in "Yautja" references, and designed the NECA toy packaging in-house complete with AvP and EU references.
QuoteI've only repeated what people like Xenomrph claim. Though I've yet to hear anyone from Fox say that everything is canon. Or indeed anyone from Fox say anything is canon. It's always third parties making the claim, and third parties are constantly producing conflicting material.
Well except for the Alien Quadrilogy/Alien Anthology disc supplementals specifically saying that the EU and whatnot is "part of the universe" (I can get a specific quote, but you've already seen it before) and having EU-themed special features such as the "Weyland-Yutani Archive" or the pop-up trivia tracks that reference the EU liberally, that is.
FOX doesn't have to come down from on high and make a signed and notarized letter addressed directly to the fans - the fact that they're saying these things to their licensees doesn't change the fact that they said them at all.
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Of course someone will chime in shortly saying Resurrection can be re-interpreted without ever adequately explaining how, but there you go.
It's been adequately explained ad-infinitum for years, if you choose not to accept it then that's okay.
Quote from: SM on Oct 14, 2013, 04:48:13 AM
Why? Fans are ones who are going to buying the things. Only makes sense to pay attention to their opinion.
Well that's the thing - it really doesn't. By and large the people who are going to post on a forum like this one are the kinds of people who will buy the stuff regardless of quality. How many of the DH Press 'Aliens' novels did you buy sight-unseen? How many did you like? What about 'Aliens: More Than Human' (or whatever it was called) or the two hardbacks that came out recently, or AvP:TWW?
This article talks about the phenomenon, and although the article focuses on professional wrestling, it still applies to pretty much any kind of "fandom".
Ideally, it's not the fans who are the target audience, because the fans by and large will buy it anyway, regardless of quality. Ideally they should be trying to attract new readers using quality storytelling and art. Whether they pull that off remains to be seen.
QuoteThere's yet to be an AvP comic linked to either film. Why tie a comic directly to a crap film that the majority of viewers didn't like?
Could even extend to the second two Alien films.
To be fair AvP: Thrill of the Hunt/Civilized Beasts directly tied into AvP, but more of in the general "Predators have hunting rituals and temples, where they hunt Aliens" idea, similar to how the AvP2010 videogame handled it. It didn't tie into the characters, but it definitely tied into the ideas introduced in 'AvP'.
And while it wasn't a comic book, 'Aliens: Original Sin' was still handled by Dark Horse and was a direct sequel to Resurrection.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Oct 14, 2013, 04:52:13 AM
Quote from: predxeno on Oct 14, 2013, 04:39:20 AM
I hope the reason they're doing that is because it simply isn't convenient to fit in the story rather than just caving in to fan opinion.
Based on the opinions of the writers, sadly that is what it sounds like. Read in between the lines, it's practically "In their opinion" to what's canon and what isn't to "their" world that they're building. Literally, that's what they said.
-Rakai'Thwei
To be fair it's not a bad way to handle it - there's plenty of room in the galaxy for new and interesting stories, and like SM said it's pretty much par for the course. If we get lucky maybe some other writer will drop a reference to older comics and stuff just because the long-time fans will get a kick out of it, just like a couple of the DHPress books did.