Possible AVP2 storylines from AVP's ending...

[RIJOENPIAL]

Also, and this has been bugging me for a while after the sketchy info about AVP2 has come up:

The fact that AVP2, if it were written by PWA, might be set in the Predator homeworld...

Just imagine the Predalien growing up and hiding itself until they landed on the Pred world...

Now imagine the Predalien was a Queen, or a Pretorian with the ability to lay an emergency egg to give birth to a Queen...

now imagine that the Predalien would be instead of 'all guns blazing', would be more dissimulated, more 'cloak and dagger'...it would lay low until the Queen was produing eggs and would guard her until a few eggs would hatch...

Now imagine that the Predalien would be the general of the Aliens, who already impregnated a few Predators or Predatoresses (the irony of it), and hunt the Preds dow so effectively that the Predator Elder would need to send a Predator and demand the aid of Lex, Harrigan and Dutch to aid them in the all-out war...

The Predators, three of them, for the three humans, would board a spaceship, a faster than light spaceship. and would isolate Lex, Dutch and Harrigan to request their aid...

It would be a 'Desperate times require desperate measures' and the AVP hated line 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend - part 2' situation...

From the three, only Lex would agree to go, being a lider and a fierless woman...

She was ridiculed when she got back to the world, and was facing criminal charges because of her being the sole survivor of an expedition gone wrong...

And so, there was nothing left for her here so she went (kinda like Ripley in Aliens) and proved to be very resourceful and brave...she was presented with Pred technology to aid her and she was accepted in the clan quiclky after killing the Predalien at mid-movie...

The Queen, informed by one of the drones about the dead Predalien, targeted her for annihilation, not impregnation... that is how angry the Queen would be about her - women ate eachother, no matter what species they are...) and the surviving Predators would protect her at all times, and she would eventually fall for her personal bodyguard, an elegant Predator hunter of Predators, with a beautifully crafted armour and helmet...Then, at the heat of the final battle, the Predators would fight the Aliens, while Lex and the Predator would infiltrate the Queen's layer and kill her...

It must be said that the trip of the Predator clan back home would take, roughly, six months, all the while the Predalien would sequester, very silently, one or two Predators for food...

So, Lex, during these six months, would have spend them training with the spear she was given,m becoming incredibly proficient in its use, and also learning all kinds of martial arts...

It must be added that the spear had a transmitter that enabled the Approaching predators to know where she was and also contact her with human voices, saying that they needed her help... and her being one of them, now, with markings and all, she was bound to help them, while Dutch and Harrigan, especially Harrigan, were not... And she never made any resistance to it as I have explained...

So, they enter the Hive and they discover a troubling thing: an Alien King, a flying Alien half the size of the Queen, but deadlier... The two separate and the Predator lures the King into a jungle, where the King is finding trouble to land, and after dodging the King's attacks long enough, even if the king manages to destroy his cannon shoulder and damage his mask, rendering it useless, the predator clips his wings with a wrist bow, forcing him to a hard landing, damaging his arms...he is now limited to the jaws... and they start a dance of dodging and hitting, and the King finally dies with the Predator making a Harrigan simulation and slicing the King's head in half...

Now, the predator has to go back into the Hive, in time to save lex... meanwhile, the battlefield is amazing... Aliens and predators fight fiercely with eachother, but it is apparent that the Predators are winning... until the hugged animals of the Pred planet show up... huge Alien-like animals attack mercilessly the Predators, who are outnumbered and start talking in their dialect to eachother (duly subtitled) that one of them has to commit sacrifice and kill everyone, so they lure the Alien creatures to as far away from the Cities as they can, and in the process, all but two Preds, one male and one female, remain, and they blow thelmselves up, killing everyone...

Meanwhile, Lex is cornered by the Queen when the explosion shakes the ground, distracting the Queen long enough for Lex to go behind her and hit her with her spear, implaing her so painfully we start to feel empathy for the Queen...

The Predator arrives and in her pain, the Queen inadvertently hits the Predator with her tail, leaving him unconscious or not (by this time, we don't know)... The Queen dies and Lex starts to hunt the Hive for any eggs there are... She removes the self-destruct device from the arm of her partner, and she attaches it to the hive, placing it inside an opened egg...

She summons the Clan to help her before initiating the device... and she drags her partner till they get to an open space where she waits for rescue, which arrives quicly and takes her to safety... Then she detonates the device (no countdown here) and she is formally nominated an ambassador and hero among the Predators, which show how much they respect her heroics and leadership...

She gets back to Earth, driven by her partner, and they say goodbye with a fond farewell... Meanwhile, a deep sea submarine cruising the Antarctica basing, picks up a signal coming from below them... and then silence... The submarine continues on his course...End credits...

That's how I would write the sequel to AVP... NOT on Earth, but on the Predator's planet, with enough action, surprises and spectacular Aliens... About the FX, mirroring the Preds and Aliens with a perfectionned MASSIVE CG program would do the trick... This movie would be filled with mattes, studio sets, etc, and only two or three Pred costumes (and one female costume) and a drone, Queen and King suit was needed, the rest would be CG enhanced and the battlefields with the MASSIVE software already mentioned... nothing terribly fancy...

What do you think? And what would your storylines be, on Earth or elsewhere?

Post your storylines here and let the imagination roll...
       

[Darkness]

I haven't read it yet but you really need to start and use paragraphs. Nobody will read through all that.   

[Dachande]

WALL OF TEXT'D

I read bits of it, but first of all, Lex killing a Queen on her own with a spear...no, just no. An all out war between the Preds and Aliens is just ridiculous, especially when the preds have the firepower to just wipe out all of the aliens with just a few wristnukes, it wouldnt be hard for them to fly over the hive drop a few nukes and fly away. The Preds have no reason to engage in all out war, risking countless lives. And your saying having nearly all of the film in CGI would be nothing fancy? Finally, you say Lex 'falls' for one of her bodyguards.... please just stop.

As for how i would do the sequal, i wouldnt, the first film has done enough harm to the two franchises without someone else screweing it up.

[RIJOENPIAL]

WALL OF TEXT'D

I read bits of it, but first of all, Lex killing a Queen on her own with a spear...no, just no. An all out war between the Preds and Aliens is just ridiculous, especially when the preds have the firepower to just wipe out all of the aliens with just a few wristnukes, it wouldnt be hard for them to fly over the hive drop a few nukes and fly away. The Preds have no reason to engage in all out war, risking countless lives. And your saying having nearly all of the film in CGI would be nothing fancy? Finally, you say Lex 'falls' for one of her bodyguards.... please just stop.

As for how i would do the sequal, i wouldnt, the first film has done enough harm to the two franchises without someone else screweing it up.

Dachande, I just gave you the basic storyline... the details will be available afterwards with your doubts...
Also, I think AVP is canon now, so whether you like it or not, it is out there, so why not make the most of it in a sequel...? My storyline is not perfect, but this is just from the top of my head... Especially the scene where a armless King still manages to harm a Predator is awesome, IF well choreographed...

So, about the Predators having weapons and all, the battleground would prevent the Preds from using the canon shoulders for fear of harming other predators... this would be only wristblades and/or spears against claws and tails and tongues... so they would have to use all their agility and intelligence to survive...

The hive would be underground and undetected... not visible from the air or anything...That was why Lex ant the Predator would need to scout the area in search of the HIVE...

The Predators impregnated over the course of a few earth weeks  would be more than enough to make an Alien army that would threat the Predator clans...

About Lex falling for a Predator, why the hell not...It would not be a love like we know it... a ritualistic love, something we never saw before, it all depends on the director's creativity...
And why the hell couldn't there be a friendship evolving to an impossible love...? This love would be symbolic, never sexual...! It would all be in the body language, the eyes (Sanaa Lathan has beautiful and expressive eyes) and the awkwardness... What's wrong with that... A movie has to surprise, to evolve... if we only see what we want to see, then movies would never evolve, storytelling would never evolve... I appreciate the subtle language of love... You had in Star Wars, Star Trek, different species falling for one another, so why not here?
Also, I never said the entire movie would be all in CGI, that was why I placed the main scene, Lex and the Predator searching for the HIVE, only with a few inserted scenes to check the evolution of the battle... That was what a MASSIVE-like (Lord of the Ring's software for battle scenes) less complicated (it would do random animations of a few hundreds of Preds and Xenos , not the thousands of LOTR)... The CGI would be inserted in specific times, not the entire battle shot realtime...   

PS: You CAN make a good sequel from a bad movie...Just use your imagination... That is why I think Robert Skotte's script of ALien 5 would redeem Alien Resurrection... You should read it... 
   

[Darkness]

Okay, I've read it all and I don't like it. I actually think this would make a worse movie than what Anderson did.

-Firstly, there was way too much comic/games inspiration in this story. The Predalien becoming a Praetorian or a Queen? Alien King?
-A Predator Elder asks Dutch, Lex and Harrigan for help? I thought AvP made the Predators look weak but this takes that to a whole new level.
-And what, for the entire film, there would be only one human? There would be no speech at all.

If I had to do a direct sequel to the first film set in present time and so forth, I would actually do something like AvP2 is doing. You can't have AvP2 set in space because there'd be no humans around etc. My story would be Predalien roams the ship and for whatever reason, the ship is badly damaged and maybe there is some alien eggs on board and maybe even some adult aliens. Predalien lets all these loose. Lots of battles. Ship is destroyed. Most predators/aliens/predalien are killed. One predator manages to escape in a smaller ship, sends a distrall call to alert other predators but some facehuggers snuck on board. One facehugs the predator, forcing the smaller ship to crash back onto Earth. Bingo, we have one predalien, facehuggers are released. More Predators eventually arrive at the crash site and the battles and mayhem begin. Maybe one of those facehuggers is a Queen Facehugger and we have a Queen too. Haven't decided on the rest.

Strangely enough, the very first scene in AvP2 has a lot of potential to be great with the predalien/predators fighting. Hope they take advantage of that.

[Dachande]

I never said AvP isnt canon, i've never even said what my view of canon is. I would have no problems with a sequel, but i feel that AvP ruined a lot of things that have been put forth in the other films, such as the gestation period, and other such things. Having read over your plot again, too many paragraphs now . I doubt they would keep on fighting untill they realised they were outnumbered and then blow themselves up. I would of thought they would either just send some 'Bad Bloods' (if we were choosing to include other aspects of the novels and such) to go out and blow themselves up to regain their honour, but i realise this is a premise for a movie and nobody EVER uses the logical choice.

Alo about the nest, the Predators have spacecraft, so surely they would have other air based vehicles, so they could use them to scout the area and see where the aliens were coming from, or again use a bad blood to scout it.

Finally, Human/Pred love. One reason why i think so many people had a prblem with the teamup in AvP, was that there were many times where you expected them to kiss. But  it would just seem wrong in this type of movie, as you have a fearsome, planetary Hunter willing to kill things by any means, falling for a Earth woman, it would ruin the image of the Pred, having it fall for a human, would just ruin all it stood for in the first two movies which was just blowing the crap out of anything and everything. Inter-species relationships in Star Wars and Star Trek work because they are all films where the 'Humans' have the ability to travel from planet to planet and each planet is diverse in alien species. Earth is NOT diverse in Alien species.

Finallyx2 ,i doubt the Queen would care if the PA or Paul A XD as a matter of fact got killed, if they're in an all out war then there are a few thousand or so more out there, she wouldnt care about one dying.

[RIJOENPIAL]

I never said AvP isnt canon, i've never even said what my view of canon is. I would have no problems with a sequel, but i feel that AvP ruined a lot of things that have been put forth in the other films, such as the gestation period, and other such things. Having read over your plot again, too many paragraphs now . I doubt they would keep on fighting untill they realised they were outnumbered and then blow themselves up. I would of thought they would either just send some 'Bad Bloods' (if we were choosing to include other aspects of the novels and such) to go out and blow themselves up to regain their honour, but i realise this is a premise for a movie and nobody EVER uses the logical choice.

Alo about the nest, the Predators have spacecraft, so surely they would have other air based vehicles, so they could use them to scout the area and see where the aliens were coming from, or again use a bad blood to scout it.

Finally, Human/Pred love. One reason why i think so many people had a prblem with the teamup in AvP, was that there were many times where you expected them to kiss. But  it would just seem wrong in this type of movie, as you have a fearsome, planetary Hunter willing to kill things by any means, falling for a Earth woman, it would ruin the image of the Pred, having it fall for a human, would just ruin all it stood for in the first two movies which was just blowing the crap out of anything and everything. Inter-species relationships in Star Wars and Star Trek work because they are all films where the 'Humans' have the ability to travel from planet to planet and each planet is diverse in alien species. Earth is NOT diverse in Alien species.

Finallyx2 ,i doubt the Queen would care if the PA or Paul A XD as a matter of fact got killed, if they're in an all out war then there are a few thousand or so more out there, she wouldnt care about one dying.

First of all, Lex and the Predator would not kiss, just IMPLY love by their actions... a desperate scream when the pred is hit by the queen, for instance... a sad look when they part at the end... etc...

Second, the Pred's honor system would make them sacrifice to prevent the Aliens from attacking the other tribes and infect the entire planet...

The females would take part in the fight because of the survival depending on everyone working together...

Also, Lex and the Predator would be scouting and attacking from within, not from above...the nest would be undetectable from the air...

Last, the predator only hunt armed and worthy trophies... Lex would be already one of them, so this would enable a proximity between humanoid creatures... The hunters from the first two Pred movies and AVP were hunting trophees, not this time... they were now fighting for their survival... With the majority of the ships elsewhere in space, and unable to receive word from the base because the Predalien, a smart hybrid, would instruct the drones to take out their communications, all in a guerrila-like manner... Thjey would kidnap unaware Predators or isolated Predators and because of their individualistic nature, no one would notice they were missing...

Last but not least, the Queen would care because the Predalien was the general of her troops, and the fact that a female killed him would enrage her, as it would enrage her whenever one of her 'children' got killed...   

[War Wager]

Nope don't like it either... 

[Trioxide]

Wow.....um.... RIJOENPIAL, I really think that you need to just calm down and back away from the keyboard. Hell, you might even want to get out of the basement: there is whole new world out there.   

All your comments and postings are miles and miles long.  (Seriously, If all you comments were put together I'm sure that It would come out to be somewhere between 1 and 500 miles long).

So chill out, get some women, and just take it easy 

[Mike’s Monsters]

That might work as a comic book... Because it reminded me of the AvP comics... Which i didnt like all that much... Because it seemed kinda goofy a human teaming up with predators... But thats just me. I know it could maybe work but I dunno.
Youve got an imagination but I don't necessarilly like all of it. It kinda sounds too farfetched and way over the top. Like I said... It could work as a comic. But its kinda already been done with the original avp comic series.

[Anonymous684]

Hey, my first time posting long time reader!

Now this isnt a real fight but its something i would want to see "ONLY" and i mean "ONLY"
if AVP is on modern earth again.


The stars are brighter than ever, the sun is hotter than usual, the hunt is more fearsome than before.
In the blackness of space a ship Descends  into the earths atmosphere, a pod small pod
Big enough to fit one humanoid begins to heat up as it reaches its destination.

   3:32 a.m. Gunnison Colorado

. " Nate, NATE wake up, there's something in the sky" said a voice from the distance. " ah its
just a plane, go back to bed" said Nate "we'll this plane is about to f**king crash right in are crops!" said
the voice in the distance. Nate jumps out of his bed as if something had bit him in a deep sleep. " Criss, get the flash light!" Nate said. Criss being the younger brother always has to do what Nate says.
Within seconds a loud ferocious  Boom, followed by what seemed to be a earthquake. " What the f*** was that"
Nate said with fear in his voice. " call dad" criss said standing in front of a laundry shoot leading to the basement. " we wont be
able to get a hold of him he's in California remember. Plus your 17 its time for you to man up and not depend on dad to
help your ass all the time" Nate said out of fear and frustration. Another loud sounding boom appeared but not from
something crashing more of a impaling sound as if something had been thrown through a wall. A third boom a few seconds after. Criss standing in front of the Shoot leading to
the basement loses his balance and falls down into the laundry shoot screaming for help. " CRISS, Criss are you ok? Criss answer me!" Nate walks over to
the door that also leads down to the basement of the raggedy ruined  house. Which felt as if it would always fall over form it being lifted off the ground by 8 massive beams holding it up. The house was clearly not safe to live in but Dutch family always lives on the edge. Holding a flash light in one hand Nate picks up a
wrench in his other. Slowly moving down the stairs Nate calls out in a whisper " Criss, shit man don't be screwing around, Criss?
Ah f***". Nate reaches the bottom of the basement and had a feeling of achievement doing so. He searches the basement and
finds no sign of Criss, he continues to look and comes across a hole in the wall leading out to his corn crops. The hole was as if
something had been thrown through it! Nate takes a closer look before proceeding and realizes that there is slime around the area
near the bashed hole in the basement wall. Nate avoids it as much as possible and makes his way out into the crop fields. He follows
a trail that seemed to have been made from something being dragged though the crops. Nate soon realizes to himself " If something had
crashed where is the smoke the fire?". Nate follows the trail until it brought him to the scarecrow him and his brother Criss had made. Nate
Realizes that a liquid is dripping from the scarecrow, he moves around to the back side of the scarecrow and slowly lifts his flash light up words to the top of the scarecrow and finds the source of the liquid.
Blood, Criss's blood, his body had been skinned and hung from the scarecrow from what was a very thin rope but seemed to
be very strong. Nate dropped to the ground out of Fright and horror. He hears something behind him, a sound like a clicking pattern, and
Then it stopped and what ever was making the clicking noise seemed to have let out a ferocious  roar. Nate slowly turns around and sees a a figure which seemed to be transparent , it walked slowly towards
Nate. Nate was pinned against the poll that was holding The scarecrow up. He hears a sound in the distance, he looks out in another direction.
Nate sees the crops moving as if something was racing through them at top speed. Within seconds a tall animal like creature pounces onto the
Transparent figure. Slowly the invisible figure raveled him self as if something damaged his clocking. Nate is unable to see the humanoid figure as it is to dark to make and details out. But Nate could see something very frightening on the other creature. The animal like
creature has what to seems to look like a long mouth inside the mouth of the creature. As a tongue and was continually stabbing the humanoid. Finally the animal creature
dragged the humanoid away into the crops quickly and all was quite. Nate was devastated.


Sorry i dont have  paragraphs or anything but i hope you likd it!

[Trioxide]

But Nate could see something very frightening on the other creature. The animal like
creature .....

It was the terrible, merciless, frightening, no-nonsense EVIL KITTY!! 

[RIJOENPIAL]

Guys, all I've done here is give my take about a POSSIBLE way to go from the ending of AVP...

Funny thing is I NEVER read the comics... 

Instead of just criticising for the hell of it, why not post what your take on a possible AVP sequel could be...

That was the motivation for the thread anyway, so chill out there, guys, and be creative here...



PS: And Troxide, i am writing this on a sex break, so give me some credit at least...   

[RIJOENPIAL]

Okay, I've read it all and I don't like it. I actually think this would make a worse movie than what Anderson did.

-Firstly, there was way too much comic/games inspiration in this story. The Predalien becoming a Praetorian or a Queen? Alien King?
-A Predator Elder asks Dutch, Lex and Harrigan for help? I thought AvP made the Predators look weak but this takes that to a whole new level.
-And what, for the entire film, there would be only one human? There would be no speech at all.

If I had to do a direct sequel to the first film set in present time and so forth, I would actually do something like AvP2 is doing. You can't have AvP2 set in space because there'd be no humans around etc. My story would be Predalien roams the ship and for whatever reason, the ship is badly damaged and maybe there is some alien eggs on board and maybe even some adult aliens. Predalien lets all these loose. Lots of battles. Ship is destroyed. Most predators/aliens/predalien are killed. One predator manages to escape in a smaller ship, sends a distrall call to alert other predators but some facehuggers snuck on board. One facehugs the predator, forcing the smaller ship to crash back onto Earth. Bingo, we have one predalien, facehuggers are released. More Predators eventually arrive at the crash site and the battles and mayhem begin. Maybe one of those facehuggers is a Queen Facehugger and we have a Queen too. Haven't decided on the rest.

Strangely enough, the very first scene in AvP2 has a lot of potential to be great with the predalien/predators fighting. Hope they take advantage of that.

Ok, Darkness, will try to explain things and what I was aiming at:

1) We have seen in Alien3 a facehugger that laid 2 eggs, a queen and a drone to protect it... So why not evolve the concept of thePredalien/Praetorian hybrid, an intelligent and cunning variation... It would introduce the Praetorians but without conflicting with the Queen design, meaning that being the Praetorians a smaller version of the Queen visually, this would imply that the Praetorian had the ability to lay an emergency egg, some new concepts to an already beat up franchise...I think this would be better than the Newborn one anyway, so...

2) About the Elder asking for help, Dutch and Harrigan were the ones that ever beat a Predator and Lex the only human at present day that ever killed an Alien... So Lex would be the obvious choice here, and I presented both Harrigan and Dutch to do cameos or just off-camera denying to aid the Preds... Also, by reducing the Predators' ranks with the facehugging an all, the Aliens were beginning to pose a very significant threat to the Predator clans, that's why they would unite on a full-blown battle to prevent them from spreading all over the planet... It was this overwhelming threat that would lead a proud but responsible Elder to request Lex to aid them, being one of them and all...

The Predators are warriors and they are honourable combatants, and they recognise valor and courage, and although at first the Elder still has some concerns and reservations about Lex, the way she leads herself and other Predators in battle convinces him... SO it would not be an easy trust, but it would get there...

3) There would be an experienced Predator, who had spent ages on Earth hunting, that knew the American language... That was why Lex would start to grow fond of him...He would explain to her their ways, and there would be an interchange of cultural aspects between them, on quiet moments... He would act as liaison with the Elder, because he was a high ranking Predator... So, there you go...

4) Your idea is closer to what we will probably have in AVP2 , but that is not an original idea... We don't need to have yet AGAIN humans being just cannon fodder... Why not a movie with humans being brave, resourceful, agile and fearless...?!

Why just having a Earthbound story with humans being killed, one human being the hero, and the ending being cliché as everything else...?

Why continue to do the obvious, and preposterous too...An already out of reach ship falling to Earth... By the time the Predalien would grow, they would already be in hyperspace or whatever... So, right from the beginning, we would have a limping story... And why doing this instead of on the Predator planet... ?

Why not give something new and fresh, instead of the same old beaten setting and structure...? An 'Alien'-type AVP2? With Aliens that are no longer scary AT ALL by themselves...? With only one predator against a legion of Aliens...? Or possibly three...? Is this anything you look forward to...? I sure ain't... because movies should always be original, creative, make connections that never were there, and surely be classics... or have classic moments...

Also,the movie is called  'ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR' , not 'ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR VERSUS HUMANS'...

And 'my' AVP2 would have humans, only one, enabling us to learn a lot more about the Predators than we know so far... Use the comics for what they're worth but logically add some other things as well... And not being afraid to take risks... Do you think Alien and Predator were not taking risks as well..?


Back to you...   

PS: I appreciate your doubts and critics... I have given you the storyline, but the details and the reasons why I chose this or that particular direction can only be explained afterwards... Mind you that this would just be the storyline... the dialogues and stage directions would be done by someone else, someone crafty and experienced... I think John McTiernan would be perfect directorfor this story, because he could make excellent battle sequences and quiet, expository moments, and Stan Winston would do great and life-like  Predator and Predalien designs and suits... ADI would take a leave of absence, or would just be on standby IF Stans' studio failed to do good Alien designs... The 'Aliens' design could b used for budget reasons on the drone Predaliens (awesome!!) who would be far more cunning and intelligent than your average Xenomorph...

So the battle would be terrific and terrifying... nothing we've ever seen before...And always maintaining CONTINUITY regarding the 'Alien' saga...

Which is the only major concern for me with Fox's AVP2...It will disrupt continuity just by placing the action on present-day Earth, especially in a town ... that and having no credibility regarding how the Aliens get to Earth and etc...
   
   

[Darkness]

) We have seen in Alien3 a facehugger that laid 2 eggs, a queen and a drone to protect it... So why not evolve the concept of thePredalien/Praetorian hybrid,

Because people are already nervous about the predalien concept, nevermind more hybrids.

Your idea is closer to what we will probably have in AVP2 , but that is not an original idea... We don't need to have yet AGAIN humans being just cannon fodder... Why not a movie with humans being brave, resourceful, agile and fearless...?!

Why just having a Earthbound story with humans being killed, one human being the hero, and the ending being cliché as everything else...?

Because it's the most logical storyline after AvP. There's not a lot you can do. And my version was just an ideal opening to the film. It might not neccesarily crash back onto a town.

And 'my' AVP2 would have humans, only one, enabling us to learn a lot more about the Predators than we know so far...

Because it would make a terrible movie if there was just one human. The audience wouldn't have a clue what was going on.