Started by RidgeTop, Nov 20, 2012, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: Elyphaleth on Nov 25, 2012, 07:14:14 PMI actually like the Boiler. It fits pretty well in the Xenomorph hive-like social structure. Many insects sacrifice themselves to protect the hive.
Quote from: WinterActual on Nov 25, 2012, 07:58:35 PMThe Xenos are not insects.
QuoteThe alien creature was always part insect. Alien, from its inception in Alien writers O'Bannon and Shusset's mind, through HR Giger's artwork, and Ridley Scott's behavioral research, is either derived from or at the least portrays characteristics of insects.The alien's life cycle and lifestyle is where you can find the insectal characteristics.Ron Shusset: 'People have read all kinds of things into it that we didn't intend, not even subconsciously. But there was one thing we did do. It was our idea that it would be the life-cycle of an insect. The way a wasp will sting a spider, paralyze it, and lay its eggs in the spider; its eggs grow off the living spider, like a surrogate mother. That we did want it to be. We didn't want it to be a human mated with an alien and a hybrid. We thought people might pick up on it and say, 'Yeah, an alien life-cycle can be like an insect life-cycle.'Ron Cobb: '[T]hat was the core of the idea that Dan had about the [chestburster scene], he got that from the paralyzing wasp, you know, it paralyses the spider and lays its eggs on the spider, then buries it in the ground so that the living spider serves as food for the uh, wasp larva and you know, he always was so horrified at that idea.'Ridley Scott: 'There's a fundamental connection in nature because we actually watched, in preparation for this, Oxford Scientific had this interesting piece of footage where they'd watched a slice of bark - which, in our terms, to a human being, would be about 12 feet thick - and there's a grub underneath the bark, between the bark and the tree. There's always a space between the bark and the tree. Across the top of the bark was this insect, which passes over the grub, stops, backs up, and "feels" the grub is there let's say, the equivalent of 8 foot below you. It goes up on its hind legs, produces a needle from between its legs, and drills through the bark and bulls-eyes right into the grub and lays its seed, so that the grub becomes the host of the insect. And does what comes out of the union between the grub and the insect, does that become a version of both? That's what we basically went along with.' Ridley Scott: 'Whether he [the Alien] could see, or simply sense like an insect, I didn't need ever have to answer that question''He [Skerret] is really the host for the insect, which is the Alien.'Ridley Scott: 'There are insects like that [androgynous, asexual], so we based that on a little bit of good old Mother Nature.'HR Giger: '[W]e had to combine the derelict ship and the hatchery silo. I thought we could place the egg silo under the ship, a bit like termites do.' (...) 'We decided to make a very elegant creature, quick and like an insect.' - Giger All the insectal elements were there from the beginning - cocooning, abductions for reproduction purposes, eggs, hives.
Quote from: SM on Nov 26, 2012, 01:03:55 AMThey're still not insects.
Quote from: Predaker on Nov 26, 2012, 01:07:02 AMQuote from: SM on Nov 26, 2012, 01:03:55 AMThey're still not insects.Is this going to be a stand up fight, sir, or another bug hunt?
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Nov 26, 2012, 01:12:16 AMQuote from: Predaker on Nov 26, 2012, 01:07:02 AMQuote from: SM on Nov 26, 2012, 01:03:55 AMThey're still not insects.Is this going to be a stand up fight, sir, or another bug hunt?it's gonna be a "true sequel".
Quote from: FightFinda on Nov 25, 2012, 08:50:21 PMQuote from: Elyphaleth on Nov 25, 2012, 07:14:14 PMI actually like the Boiler. It fits pretty well in the Xenomorph hive-like social structure. Many insects sacrifice themselves to protect the hive.Boy, are the Giger-Bashers going to eat you alive for that.
Quote from: SM on Nov 26, 2012, 03:16:25 AMNo one's denying that.But it ends with "influence".
Quote from: acrediblesource on Nov 26, 2012, 01:36:08 AMQuote from: FightFinda on Nov 25, 2012, 08:50:21 PMQuote from: Elyphaleth on Nov 25, 2012, 07:14:14 PMI actually like the Boiler. It fits pretty well in the Xenomorph hive-like social structure. Many insects sacrifice themselves to protect the hive.Boy, are the Giger-Bashers going to eat you alive for that.WTF does Giger-Bashers mean? Is that Pro Giger or Anti Giger? And being Anti Giger is a little f**kin trolling dont ya think? For an Alien fansite? Blasphemous!
Quote from: Predaker on Nov 26, 2012, 01:16:40 AMSpoiler[close]