[SPOILERS] Feral Predator Design Thread

Started by The Shuriken, Jun 05, 2022, 02:47:11 AM

Are you for the new Predator face or against?

I do like the new face design
30 (20%)
I do not like the new face design
73 (48.7%)
It is ok and I am willing to accept the new face design
47 (31.3%)

Total Members Voted: 149

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CANNON

So it's been a while since the movie has been released and the dust has settled.

Has Dan Trachtenberg addressed the controversial new predator face design and why he decided to move on from the classic Winston design? Has he addressed the fans negative opinions of the change?
Maybe even referencing a future sequel design?

Yautja888

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 11, 2023, 02:46:00 PMSo it's been a while since the movie has been released and the dust has settled.

Has Dan Trachtenberg addressed the controversial new predator face design and why he decided to move on from the classic Winston design? Has he addressed the fans negative opinions of the change?
Maybe even referencing a future sequel design?

Nope, there are not much people who want that great design back, not enough anyway. 

[cancerblack]

Literally everyone wants either the Winston design or something similar that does it justice, you gimboid.

happypred

Quote from: Master on Feb 06, 2023, 08:23:24 PMhttps://i.imgur.com/UqWj2bu.jpeg

this just looks so good compared to the actual Prey look

Yautja888

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 11, 2023, 09:03:39 PMLiterally everyone wants either the Winston design or something similar that does it justice, you gimboid.

If you're right, then they should tell it to the producers, if not you'll get another piece of sh*t pred design the next time.And it's working like that since 2004.

BlueMarsalis79

Quote from: happypred on Nov 14, 2023, 01:50:01 AM
Quote from: Master on Feb 06, 2023, 08:23:24 PMhttps://i.imgur.com/UqWj2bu.jpeg

this just looks so good compared to the actual Prey look

Imo that looks awful.

I'd rather just had the Hot Toys version of the Prey face, just like I'd rather have had their take on the AVP face. 

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 26, 2023, 12:54:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2023, 11:21:33 AMI actually like that unmasked. Whatever tweaks they did, I actually like that more than the film's look.

Just thinking the same thing actually, it is just overall better proportioned.

Not the first time.
https://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Alien-vs-Predator-Ancient-Predator-016.jpghttps://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/AVP-Celtic-Predator-013.jpghttps://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Alien-vs-Predator-Scar-Predator-014_1356012699.jpg
Feral:
https://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Hot-Toys-Feral-Predator-004.jpghttps://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Hot-Toys-Feral-Predator-019.jpghttps://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Hot-Toys-Feral-Predator-003.jpg

Prime 1 did the same thing with Fugitive:
https://www.prime1studio.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-p1s-master-catalog/default/dwc4e217fc/images/LSTPR-01DX/catalog/lstpr-01_a02_1.jpghttps://www.prime1studio.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-p1s-master-catalog/default/dw4174ec68/images/PMTPR-01DX/catalog/pmtpr-01dx_a02_head.jpg
Just wished they looked like this in the actual films!

[cancerblack]

Quote from: Yautja888 on Nov 18, 2023, 06:11:37 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 11, 2023, 09:03:39 PMLiterally everyone wants either the Winston design or something similar that does it justice, you gimboid.

If you're right, then they should tell it to the producers, if not you'll get another piece of sh*t pred design the next time.And it's working like that since 2004.

I'm going to assume English is not your first language, because the post of yours I was replying to heavily implies that the fault is with the consumers/fandom, not the execs or directors. The fact that people are willing to give other designs a fair shake (or merely tolerate them, in many cases) is not the same as a majority disliking or not wanting the original design or variations of it.

BritishActorFromAlien3

BritishActorFromAlien3

#1252
It seems, to me at least, that what they're trying to do is similar to how contemporary brands redesign cars, phones, etc. They just drop a new look for whatever they produce (in this case the predator) and kinda force you to get used to it and convince you that the previous/original design is outdated.
I don't like this new appearance. It looks as if it's redesigned just for the sake of having a redesign.
It doesn't even look like a predator.
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Mr.Turok

I wonder how well it can even see with those inflated brows covering a portion of their eye sight?

SiL

SiL

#1254
Heat-sensing pits in its forehead.

Neila

Quote from: BritishActorFromAlien3 on Dec 04, 2023, 12:52:31 AMIt seems, to me at least, that what they're trying to do is similar to how contemporary brands redesign cars, phones, etc. They just drop a new look for whatever they produce (in this case the predator) and kinda force you to get used to it and convince you that the previous/original design is outdated.
I don't like this new appearance. It looks as if it's redesigned just for the sake of having a redesign.
It doesn't even look like a predator.
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it just looks clunky and awkward.
the SW designs have a certain filigree and expression. At ADI it looks very puffy and rubbery.
(also their aliens)
I repeat myself:
I like Alex and Tom very much.
There's a lot of work that goes into this design itself.
It's always easy to complain about something, you first have to do it better yourself.
BUT Fans have proven that they can do even better and I don't understand how Feral's design was allowed.

Zoej

Quote from: Neila on Dec 05, 2023, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: BritishActorFromAlien3 on Dec 04, 2023, 12:52:31 AMIt seems, to me at least, that what they're trying to do is similar to how contemporary brands redesign cars, phones, etc. They just drop a new look for whatever they produce (in this case the predator) and kinda force you to get used to it and convince you that the previous/original design is outdated.
I don't like this new appearance. It looks as if it's redesigned just for the sake of having a redesign.
It doesn't even look like a predator.
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it just looks clunky and awkward.
the SW designs have a certain filigree and expression. At ADI it looks very puffy and rubbery.
(also their aliens)
I repeat myself:
I like Alex and Tom very much.
There's a lot of work that goes into this design itself.
It's always easy to complain about something, you first have to do it better yourself.
BUT Fans have proven that they can do even better and I don't understand how Feral's design was allowed.

If I were shown this creature without the understanding that it was a Predator I would've guessed it was a Predator knock off. Personally the character grew on me but I much prefer the Winston predators and the KNB's Predators.

Mike’s Monsters

It wasn't Tom and Alec who had the final say or direction on the look though. It all came from Dan. He directed them to go a certain way and he made the final call. Tom and Alec just lead the team after they're given the direction.

BlueMarsalis79

Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 06, 2023, 07:52:46 PMIt wasn't Tom and Alec who had the final say or direction on the look though. It all came from Dan. He directed them to go a certain way and he made the final call. Tom and Alec just lead the team after they're given the direction.

Even so, look at the Hot Toys version, slight tweaking of proportions but much better looking.

Mike’s Monsters

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 06, 2023, 07:58:55 PM
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 06, 2023, 07:52:46 PMIt wasn't Tom and Alec who had the final say or direction on the look though. It all came from Dan. He directed them to go a certain way and he made the final call. Tom and Alec just lead the team after they're given the direction.

Even so, look at the Hot Toys version, slight tweaking of proportions but much better looking.

Yes. But that... isn't the same as the director giving them direction to pull back on the traditional look. Thats a toy based off of that look. And yeah, the toy tweaks look nice. But like, it's not hard to see it's not on Tom and Alec, it was Dan's decision. They also replaced the face with CGI. Nothing ADI did there, that's all direction from Dan. So I'm just not sure why ADI is the sole blame over and over again.

Are people critiquing the face of Feral here, or that ADI even worked on the movie? I believe in one of the interviews Ridgetop and Aaron did with Dan, he even admits he went too far with the face after hearing the reception.

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