Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 06, 2019, 08:37:32 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 06, 2019, 06:14:46 AMSpectre
Finally got around to this one. There are a few cool moments here and there, but the story is a complete mess, and really does the previous three movies dirty. Yes, even Quantum was better than this. And now I'm worried that No Time to Die is going to trip over itself trying to clean this movie's mess up.
I really want to like that every time I watch it, but it has this bizarre thing where it manages to make all its action sequences really dull. And like you, I hate how it tries to tie Silva from Skyfall into Spectre - I thought he worked much better as a stand-alone villain. It might not have been so bad if it ended with Blofeld's (initial) capture, but the final act really feels out of place and drags it down.
Batista was great though.
I've seen some vehement online vloggers saying that there's a backlash against the latest one for being too woke.
Is there any substance to this... I can't help but feel that there is: the very deliberate choice of writer, the female 007 (nothing wrong with a female 00... but it just seems to be daft having her as 007), the lines from the trailer ("get in my way and I'll shoot you in your knee" - something like that)?
The trouble is, as a middle-aged-white-man, I'm not really allowed to ask that question (which is kind of frustrating to be honest *lol*).
Friend of AVPG, Mr H feels that the wokness in a lot of modern movies really is a thing these days... but also says that overtly woke movies are failing because of this agenda pushing.
The battle-cry seems to be "just make a good movie" - like Aliens, for instance. Strong female lead, diverse cast and all that - straight white men love it. As does every other demographic.
I dunno, I've not seen the new Terminator, Batgirl, the new Charlie's Angels movies (these seem to be coming in for fire cos their woke stance)... Converserly, Rambo was under fire (ow, bad pun) for fighting Mexicans cos that was racist.
I dunno- is woke a phenomena or an over-reaction?