Alien: Covenant Box Office Performance

[windebieste]

*sigh* He loved 'em so much, when he lands on an alien planet made of the stuff, he doesn't even pick one up...

"Rocks...  I love.  Rocks."  Then again, he was only aboard the ship for the money. 

It's the occasional moments of Stupid that just bring 'PROMETHEUS' down; much lower than what it should be.

-Windebieste.

[tleilaxu]

Yeah. The writing of those two scientists in particular really brought the film down. Despite being a biologist, Milburn did pretty much no biology, unless getting himself killed by a penis snake counts.

[NickisSmart]

Given their phallic nature, isn't the word "penis-snake" kind of redundant?

[Scorpio]

As explained earlier, you have to include marketing cost and then deduct distributors' cut from the box office revenues.

Ultimately, you have to figure out what returns investors and producers got from the film, and what they think they'll get from merchandising. I think that's what determines whether or not a project is funded.

They would have already made their money back just by selling the rights.  Big franchise movies almost never lose money.

[bb-15]

*sigh* He loved 'em so much, when he lands on an alien planet made of the stuff, he doesn't even pick one up...

"Rocks...  I love.  Rocks."  Then again, he was only aboard the ship for the money. 

It's the occasional moments of Stupid that just bring 'PROMETHEUS' down; much lower than what it should be.

-Windebieste.

Yeah. The writing of those two scientists in particular really brought the film down. Despite being a biologist, Milburn did pretty much no biology, unless getting himself killed by a penis snake counts.

- I guess it's now time to point out things about the characters in "Prometheus".
* This is an off topic discussion for this thread. This should be on the "Prometheus" board but here we are.

1. Vickers hired the two scientists. She said she did the hiring in the crew presentation and since everyone else seemed to be regulars/or chosen by Weyland, Fifield and Milburn were the new comers and they would have been hired by Vickers.
2. Vickers thought no advanced aliens would be found on LV-223. She thought Shaw's / Holloway's hypothesis about the Engineers was nonsense.
So it turns out that Vickers hired two scientists who thought like she did; who also believed that the Engineer hypothesis was nonsense.
3. In the briefing Milburn and Fifield did what Vickers expected, they told Shaw / Holloway that their Engineer hypothesis was literally BS.
The biologist and geologist rejected the idea of guided evolution by space aliens. (They believed in pure Darwinian evolution.)
Those two scientists expected they would not find advanced space aliens on LV-223 and it turns out they weren't interested in finding them.
4. Fifield does some geology in "Prometheus"; such as by analyzing the structure of the dome/pyramid and by using the PUPS to map the structure of the tunnels.
But as explained in the dialogue, Fifield had no interest in the body of the advanced space alien Engineer. He wanted nothing to do with that.
5. Milburn's work as a biologist was cut from the theatrical version. In a deleted scene he finds a worm in a tunnel and is very excited by this.
His speciality was with less advanced creatures like worms or snakes.
But he had no interest in giant advanced space aliens.

* Considering this context; the behavior by the two scientists makes sense imo and does not bring "Prometheus" down.

[Kane's other son]

There's a misconception that Weyland hired the best and brightest scientists. No respectable scientist would abandon everything and go away for 5+ years without even knowing where he's going or what he's supposed to study.

[PRI. HUDSON]

I know people hate "dumb" characters, but humans are pretty stupid. We make bad choices, just like the characters in Prometheus and Covenant did.

[windebieste]

I'll grant that.  On the other hand, there were instances - particularly in 'PROMETHEUS' - where characters failed to demonstrate any training within the field of their profession.  Fifield and Milburn being the most pronounced examples.

Aside from these issues, the movie has a ton of value.

'ALIEN: Covenant' suffers from the same problem but to a much lesser degree.

-Windebieste.

[kwisatz]

There's a misconception that Weyland hired the best and brightest scientists. No respectable scientist would abandon everything and go away for 5+ years without even knowing where he's going or what he's supposed to study.

You better dont watch this show:

[SM]

 

[NickisSmart]

They have sex with green women, on that show. Wise, unwise? Not sure, but Kirk does it anyway. To boldly go where no man has gone before...

[Ingwar]

Cannot blame him

[Corporal Hicks]

I'll grant that.  On the other hand, there were instances - particularly in 'PROMETHEUS' - where characters failed to demonstrate any training within the field of their profession.  Fifield and Milburn being the most pronounced examples.

Funny thing is they were the other way round in Lindelof's script that's out there. So we didn't have the biologist touching the hammerpede.

[Hemi]

1. Vickers hired the two scientists. She said she did the hiring in the crew presentation and since everyone else seemed to be regulars/or chosen by Weyland, Fifield and Milburn were the new comers and they would have been hired by Vickers.

Ok... so thats an excuse?

2. Vickers thought no advanced aliens would be found on LV-223. She thought Shaw's / Holloway's hypothesis about the Engineers was nonsense. So it turns out that Vickers hired two scientists who thought like she did; who also believed that the Engineer hypothesis was nonsense.

Then the movie should explain the viewer that she hired a bunch of idiots.

3. In the briefing Milburn and Fifield did what Vickers expected, they told Shaw / Holloway that their Engineer hypothesis was literally BS. The biologist and geologist rejected the idea of guided evolution by space aliens. (They believed in pure Darwinian evolution.)
Those two scientists expected they would not find advanced space aliens on LV-223 and it turns out they weren't interested in finding them.

Again the movie is too vague on their interests or their relation with Vickers. It would have been better if they had some sort of hidden agenda with vickers or something.

4. Fifield does some geology in "Prometheus"; such as by analyzing the structure of the dome/pyramid and by using the PUPS to map the structure of the tunnels.
But as explained in the dialogue, Fifield had no interest in the body of the advanced space alien Engineer. He wanted nothing to do with that.

That dialogue is bat-sht crazy... Specially the way he brought it, and shows how horrid those 2 characters are written.

5. Milburn's work as a biologist was cut from the theatrical version. In a deleted scene he finds a worm in a tunnel and is very excited by this.
His speciality was with less advanced creatures like worms or snakes.
But he had no interest in giant advanced space aliens.

Deleted scene's do not count, since only fanboys seen these

* Considering this context; the behavior by the two scientists makes sense imo and does not bring "Prometheus" down.

No. And it does. People should not need a fcking manual trying to watch Prometheus.  Srry...

[BishopShouldGo]

The Milburn complaints are so tired. AAAAAUUUUUUUOOWWWHHN.