X-Box One Discussion

[Ratchetcomand]

I think it's getting worst now. Less countries means less money for MS.

Anyone think the Xbox One will end up selling badly like the Atari Jaguar did back in the mid 90's?

You must realize that the gaming industry has faced a few changes since the mid-90's.

That does mean XO can't bombed the same way that the Jaguar did and MS won't become the next Atari. With the Jaguar, I can rent and borrow games unlike the Xbox One.

[Aspie]

poor vikkah

[Vertigo]

I imagine if demand gets really low they'll make major changes to the system partway through its life. Sony managed to turn around their initial slump with the PS3.

Get used to always-online gaming though. There's speculation that by the time we reach the Xbox 4, it'll utilise streamed graphics - all the processing hardware will be on the other end of the broadband cable, making the power theoretically unlimited, and potentially making console 'upgrades' a thing of the past.

[Cal427eb]

I imagine if demand gets really low they'll make major changes to the system partway through its life. Sony managed to turn around their initial slump with the PS3.

Get used to always-online gaming though. There's speculation that by the time we reach the Xbox 4, it'll utilise streamed graphics - all the processing hardware will be on the other end of the broadband cable, making the power theoretically unlimited, and potentially making console 'upgrades' a thing of the past.

You would need a hell of an internet connection to fully utilize the potential of the graphics that the xbox 4 will have.

[Xeno Killer 2179]

There's speculation that by the time we reach the Xbox 4, it'll utilise streamed graphics - all the processing hardware will be on the other end of the broadband cable,

Yuck. I can already feel the lag and see the compression blocks. I wonder what the ping would be.

[Vertigo]

Keep in mind, we're talking 6-8 years from now. Broadband speeds won't be where they are today.

[Ratchetcomand]

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/05/22/microsoft-subtly-admits-losing-with-xbox-one/

[Xeno Killer 2179]

Keep in mind, we're talking 6-8 years from now. Broadband speeds won't be where they are today.

I experience just as much lag/ping time now as I did 6 years ago.

With h.265 compression and 30+mb (megabit not byte) video streaming I can see the visual fidelity holding up, but I don't see it being as responsive or smooth. Then there's the issue with internet going down or even just minor hiccups.

As a pc gamer I need access to my games so I can modify them; with a streaming service I assume I don't even have access to the game's files. Unacceptable. I also demand high frame rates (60-120fps) and in the time period you specify I plan to be gaming in 4k.

I don't think we'll be streaming 4k@60 fps with zero lag and full mod/technical access any time soon.

[WinterActual]

I'm sure a lot of people complaining will buy it as well

If they complain about it, why they don't buy PS4 instead? They have the choice so wheres the problem?

People are idiots.

They don't like change 

This is the worst kind of behavior. To be a slave of some brand - SONY, MS, NVIDIA, Intel etc....

[Ratchetcomand]

Personally, I'll probably just wait until they release a bundle with the console and Halo 5 before I get it, as much as its gonna pain me to part with the money for a console I probably won't use very much.

Halo is not enough to save one system. The 360 did great because it had a big selection of games, good online and MS was able to start off the 7th gen systems first before Sony and Nintendo did. Xbox One is already losing it's target audience before it is release. Xbox One is trying to force drm of extreme levels onto its consumers when people don't even want it. The Xbox One is also being released in select countries and won't be in other major parts of the world like Japan or Korea. Less countries means less sales.

The PS4 already has no online passes, no drm, a good line up of games, can go offline and is region free. The console is already on very very thin lice and it won't be long until it becomes the Jaguar of this generation. Just like with Jaguar, it was an overpriced American console that failed before it ever started.

[Terx2]

Personally, I'll probably just wait until they release a bundle with the console and Halo 5 before I get it, as much as its gonna pain me to part with the money for a console I probably won't use very much.

Halo is not enough to save one system. The 360 did great because it had a big selection of games, good online and MS was able to start off the 7th gen systems first before Sony and Nintendo did. Xbox One is already losing it's target audience before it is release. Xbox One is trying to force drm of extreme levels onto its consumers when people don't even want it. The Xbox One is also being released in select countries and won't be in other major parts of the world like Japan or Korea. Less countries means less sales.

The PS4 already has no online passes, no drm, a good line up of games, can go offline and is region free. The console is already on very very thin lice and it won't be long until it becomes the Jaguar of this generation. Just like with Jaguar, it was an overpriced American console that failed before it ever started.

To quote one of my hardcore xbox friends. "The only thing that could save it, is if Half life 3 was released exclusivly to it and it was under $250. Like either of those will happen." Sonys won in converting some of my Xbox friends to it because of the games, its cheaper and the freedom xbox one is lacking and restricting.

[Vertigo]

Keep in mind, we're talking 6-8 years from now. Broadband speeds won't be where they are today.

I experience just as much lag/ping time now as I did 6 years ago.

With h.265 compression and 30+mb (megabit not byte) video streaming I can see the visual fidelity holding up, but I don't see it being as responsive or smooth. Then there's the issue with internet going down or even just minor hiccups.

As a pc gamer I need access to my games so I can modify them; with a streaming service I assume I don't even have access to the game's files. Unacceptable. I also demand high frame rates (60-120fps) and in the time period you specify I plan to be gaming in 4k.

I don't think we'll be streaming 4k@60 fps with zero lag and full mod/technical access any time soon.

Well, I recently moved to the middle of nowhere with a connection to match, but before then my connection was around twenty times faster than eight years earlier, with ping 75% lower. And that's not even with a fibreoptic connection.
National averages have gone up too, +234% between 2008 and 2012.

I'm not exactly a proponent of reliance on streamed processing either, but if it can be done right, the repurcussions will be huge. No need to buy another console, no need to upgrade your PC. It's been talked about for a few years now.

[WinterActual]

Lol some guy in facebook owned Xbox None pretty hard - "Xbox, turn on my PS4." 

[𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯]

[Effectz]

I liked this one better.