Quote from: Engineer on Dec 16, 2013, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Dec 16, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Dec 16, 2013, 02:01:49 PMAsh was following the same decision process as muther, but he was there coincidentally.
Engineer, by that logic, it's just as likely that 'Bob the Human' might have been the Science Officer on that flight... and what would he have thought of Special Order 937?
No doubt that a human science officer would have completely altered the outcome of the movie. I'd imagine a human science officer would have acted out of self preservation... The way ripley did when she refused to open the air lock for Dallas, Kane, and lambert. But again, this is speculation and ultimately irrelevant to the argument.
Nope, totally relevant.
Relevant because it essentially refutes your hypothesis that Special Order 937 was really just 'Regular Order 937'. If the company was going to mandate such an important standard order (important enough to rate the "crew expendable" tag), why would they do so and just hope, if the scenario eventually arose, that coincidence would favour them with a company android who just coincidentally happened to be on board? Because if there
wasn't an android aboard, it would play out much like this:
SCIENCE OFFICER:
Captain, I probably shouldn't be telling you this, but I've just been notified of something called 'Special Order 937' - my eyes only.
CAPTAIN:
What is it?
SCIENCE OFFICER:
Well it seems we've been rerouted ten months off course, and we're supposed to go down to that planet and retrieve an alien lifeform and bring it back to Earth. Also, it appears the entire crew is expendable.
CAPTAIN:
Including you?
SCIENCE OFFICER:
Looks that way.
CAPTAIN:
Right. Okay, everybody back in the freezers; we're going right back to Earth and straight to the press.
End of mission, and potentially end of Company. Ash was there
specifically to see that the mission was carried out. Otherwise, it
wouldn't be. And at the end of the day, there's also this:
RIPLEY:
What was
your Special Order?
ASH:
You read it, I thought it was clear.
Not 'our' Special Order, not even 'the' Special Order...
your Special Order. If Ripley had gotten that part wrong, I've no doubt Ash would have taken a perverse android pleasure in pointing out her error.
Quote from: Engineer on Dec 16, 2013, 06:26:30 PMI prefer to think of it as...
Now this I can get behind. And with that, I leave you to your preferred thoughts.