What Alien designs would you like to see in the new film?

Started by OmegaZilla, Feb 27, 2015, 11:15:20 AM

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What Alien designs would you like to see in the new film? (Read 38,349 times)

Engineer

Quote from: bloodinthemud on Jul 21, 2015, 12:02:31 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 19, 2015, 06:18:05 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 19, 2015, 06:02:11 PM
Aliens = one-size-fits-all. :)

Well, yea, based on what we saw in the movies, I completely agree! Again, I dont want to see a praetorian in the movie... :-)


Ants usually have a soldier class that makes up a very small fraction compared to ther worker class, and they usually stand guard at the entrance of the hill (yes I had to look this up). But then again, not every species of ant follows the same class system... Army ants have no soldier class; the works function as soldiers too. And yea, again, I agree with xenomorphine, based on what we saw in the movies, the aliens did seem more like army ants in that regard.


If... And that's a BIG IF... By some miracle, Neil Blomkamp pulls off a good alien movie and this turns into a new trilogy (which is the big fad these days), there is one type of alien I would like to see in a film eventually (but not yet, I want them to earn my trust back), and oddly enough it, it sort of fits in with a lot of what everyone else has posted they want to see...

It's big, kinda praetorian-ish
It's white-ish
It's Lankier than usual
It's got an extra elongated head

How many of you remember the "carrier" from that old ps2 RTS avp game? Avp: extinction, I believe. The game was terrible, and had the MOST disappointing ending EVER!! But the carrier did put this image in my head that I think would be cool as hell in a movie! For those that have no idea what I'm talking about, the carrier was a special alien subspecies that could carry between 6 to 12 facehuggers on its back. It was the same whitish color as the facehuggers, and it "evolved" from a praetorian (I don't think it needs to be linked in with a praetorian though, just a subspecies with a very specific role/function). In the game, it allowed you to move facehuggers in to the enemy base very rapidly without killing the facehuggers too easily.

Ever since that game, I've had this image of a creepy alien like this run in to a room full of marines and while it's ripping into the marines it's also got about a dozen facehuggers leaping off its back in every direction and attaching to the nearest marines as they panic and try to fight back!

How cool would that be??
VERY. I've actually had something like that in my mind for a while. I'm writing some fanfiction as a hobby and one of the stories involves a runner alien queen's hive being threatened and she gathers hundreds of her facehugger babies like the spider pic above, and overwhelms her oppressors like the confrontation you describe!

I'd love to see a runner alien queen in a movie btw, like the queen in aliens just on all fours(and faster). If an alien infestation establishes itself before a human presence is added then I'd be inclined to think the queen would be a runner type queen.
What you described reminds me of a scene from one of the books... I believe it was "aliens: berserker," where the team was rushed by hundreds of facehuggers. I vaguely remember them pouring out from an open elevator shaft...

Jarac

Quote from: Engineer on Jul 23, 2015, 06:28:45 PM
Quote from: bloodinthemud on Jul 21, 2015, 12:02:31 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 19, 2015, 06:18:05 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 19, 2015, 06:02:11 PM
Aliens = one-size-fits-all. :)

Well, yea, based on what we saw in the movies, I completely agree! Again, I dont want to see a praetorian in the movie... :-)


Ants usually have a soldier class that makes up a very small fraction compared to ther worker class, and they usually stand guard at the entrance of the hill (yes I had to look this up). But then again, not every species of ant follows the same class system... Army ants have no soldier class; the works function as soldiers too. And yea, again, I agree with xenomorphine, based on what we saw in the movies, the aliens did seem more like army ants in that regard.


If... And that's a BIG IF... By some miracle, Neil Blomkamp pulls off a good alien movie and this turns into a new trilogy (which is the big fad these days), there is one type of alien I would like to see in a film eventually (but not yet, I want them to earn my trust back), and oddly enough it, it sort of fits in with a lot of what everyone else has posted they want to see...

It's big, kinda praetorian-ish
It's white-ish
It's Lankier than usual
It's got an extra elongated head

How many of you remember the "carrier" from that old ps2 RTS avp game? Avp: extinction, I believe. The game was terrible, and had the MOST disappointing ending EVER!! But the carrier did put this image in my head that I think would be cool as hell in a movie! For those that have no idea what I'm talking about, the carrier was a special alien subspecies that could carry between 6 to 12 facehuggers on its back. It was the same whitish color as the facehuggers, and it "evolved" from a praetorian (I don't think it needs to be linked in with a praetorian though, just a subspecies with a very specific role/function). In the game, it allowed you to move facehuggers in to the enemy base very rapidly without killing the facehuggers too easily.

Ever since that game, I've had this image of a creepy alien like this run in to a room full of marines and while it's ripping into the marines it's also got about a dozen facehuggers leaping off its back in every direction and attaching to the nearest marines as they panic and try to fight back!

How cool would that be??
VERY. I've actually had something like that in my mind for a while. I'm writing some fanfiction as a hobby and one of the stories involves a runner alien queen's hive being threatened and she gathers hundreds of her facehugger babies like the spider pic above, and overwhelms her oppressors like the confrontation you describe!

I'd love to see a runner alien queen in a movie btw, like the queen in aliens just on all fours(and faster). If an alien infestation establishes itself before a human presence is added then I'd be inclined to think the queen would be a runner type queen.
What you described reminds me of a scene from one of the books... I believe it was "aliens: berserker," where the team was rushed by hundreds of facehuggers. I vaguely remember them pouring out from an open elevator shaft...
Yup. That's the one. Surprisingly no-one got Facehugged in that encounter.

Engineer

Quote from: Jarac on Jul 23, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
Yup. That's the one. Surprisingly no-one got Facehugged in that encounter.

Thanks for the confirmation! It's good to hear my memory isn't as bad as my wife claims it is! Haha!

Yea, I feel like the facehuggers don't get enough attention in the games and movies. I want to see more action scenes involving those little critters, like ripley and newt in the med lab! :-)

Xenomorphine

I'm planning to explore their intelligence my own project.

Engineer

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 24, 2015, 12:01:19 AM
I'm planning to explore their intelligence my own project.

Really?!? What sort of project?

Xenomorphine

A fan-film motion-comic made in (hopefully) professional-looking CGI.

Been in development since 2013:

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=46783.0

Engineer

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 24, 2015, 03:30:20 AM
A fan-film motion-comic made in (hopefully) professional-looking CGI.

Been in development since 2013:

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=46783.0
Thanks for the link, I've been slowly catching up on your progess! So far what you've teased looks fantastic though! :-)

Have any facehugger models prepared?

THE CITY HUNTER


Xenomorphine

Two different models, actually. :) One of them's designed to fit inside an articulated egg, though.

Engineer

Any plans to tease those??

Xenomorphine

The one with the egg was purchased from here:

http://forender.com/component/mijoshop/product/1002-xenomorph-02-00-facehugger.html

I'm hoping to make it look a little more organic. Even if I can't, the right lighting works wonders. :)

But, yeah, a lot of stories treat the facehugger/chestburster as just a stop-gap plot device. Exploring their mentality hasn't been done much and it's something I'd like to see. So, it's an element I'm going to add to my own story, because it seems like an overlooked angle (much like 'egg-morphing', which I'm also trying to include, if it feels right).

Engineer

Wow those look pretty good!

I'd like to see the final product; I'm curious what you do with the facehuggers!

But I have to admit, I'm not a fan of the egg morphing route; I never have been, really.

Xenomorphine

It was part of what made the creature live up to its titular name for me. Of course, I read the novelisation before watching the film... Though, to me, it's the only way to reconcile 'Alien 3' and a way to make sure even a single adult could potentially breed: Egg transformation being a method to produce new Queens.

Of course, if the new film does retcon A3, then it re-opens the possibility of adults being able to become Queens, themselves.

As a concept, though, it struck me as suitably ghoulish and horrific. Opens up the unsettling question of whether it means the host's brain remains 'alive' and in agony for as long as the egg survives - which could potentially be centuries or more. That's a really disturbing ideal.

Engineer

I'd say I'm open minded about egg morphing, and I agree that it would be terrifying...

... But I just can't get over the fact that egg morphing starts to lean more into science fantasy as opposed to science fiction. This IS my opinion, of course, but the idea of a human being transformed to a different organism entirely just doesn't work for me most of the time. There are exceptions though: the flood in halo, the thing, the fly; those worked for me. But other movies that have used similar concepts it just bugged me more than it terrified me. Prometheus and the black goo didn't really do anything for me, nor did the creature transformations in a lot of older movies like leviathan. I really enjoyed district 9, but honestly the human protagonist transforming to a prawn almost killed the movie for me (other factors contributed too; I'm also not a fan of documentary-style movies like the first half of district 9).When that started happening, I almost walked out of the theater, but I'm glad I stuck around to see the rest because it did turn out to be one of my favorite movies in the last 10 years. To me, the most terrifying thing is exactly what alien did; turn a human into a living incubator!

Xenomorphine

It's not all that different to the wasps which turn tarantulas into giant incubators. That analogy was even made by Alan Dean Foster in the novelisation.

It's the one thing I wish they had kept in 'Alien 3'. Having the creature going around and just mindlessly killing everyone felt slightly too predictable. The original had a powerful impact with Parker throwing down Dallas' flamethrower and ominously saying there was no sign, whatsoever, of the guy. I remember Ridley Scott in an interview, way back when, saying how he was trying to avoid it just coming across "like a tiger" by simply eating everyone. The ambiguity helped it to be more memorable and unsettling than that.

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