Quote from: maledoro on Sep 06, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: saintssinphony on Sep 06, 2013, 02:56:39 AMThe Thelemic law and other similar practices are carried on in some ways with many people I know in the Church. I believe Satanism though is a retooling of those ideas and streamlined for the 21st century. The "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" hasn't really changed much, also Ritual Magick is still heavily used today. I'm sure you know that. In fact I'd say without the teaching and rituals from The Golden Dawn there wouldn't be Thelema or Satanism today. 93 93/93
I wouldn't call the CoS "21st Century". A lot of people left them and formed the Temple of Set because of LaVey's ideas, especially on whom to recruit. Plus, based on the ritual materials I have examined, the ToS keeps a more traditional connection to the LHP than the CoS.
You are right about how the Luciferian current owes a lot to Thelema. So does Wicca. Wiccans hate it when I point out that most of what they think is "ancient wisdom" came from Gerald Gardner who cribbed a lot of his "teachings" from Freemasonry and Aleister Crowley, when Gardner was a member of the Ordo Templi Orientis.
Yes many wiccans are very confused when you show them some old knowledge. I seemed to attract wiccans and when I show them some older stuff I'm met with the same venom. Only those with serious dispositions into learning will listen to reason. Gardner, to me, was just in it for the young naked girls and some money from books. I'm sure he started to believe his stuff as truth but that's another conversation.
I find it is funny when you get a wiccan in a room who hasn't heard of Gardner and you get a group of Gardner followers together. It can be exciting. You can just see the ideas on the lone non-Gardner follower get knocked out of contention and crumble before his eyes !!! Or get some Gardner followers in the same room as Dianic wiccans and you might get a bloodbath.
I meant CoS being made for the 21st century as in it isn't a theistic belief system.
Theistic Satanist are like Diane Vera and as you mentioned the ToS and to me they are crazy people. In this age of godlessness it is important to have some personal responsibility which the CoS tries to teach.