Quote from: Omegamorph on Feb 23, 2021, 11:42:51 PM
-2021 and people still using the super-fake airplane story as an accurate portrayal of the design process (read: Predator design went from Munro/Short to Winston/Wang, and MANY of the character design traits that are now iconic to Predator were originally conceived by Munro/Short)
To be fair, who wouldn't trust what Stan Winston describes in a documentary as the story behind the mandibles, that it being a James Cameron conception? Even with home video ownership and love for all the movies, who could blame someone for believing its behind-the-scenes featurette?
It be fair to suggest that not many general fans that go beyond the movies and supplementals would know the real story. There hasn't been a Predator book published containing that info...
And not knowing to
not trust Stan Winston here doesn't take away from being able to view and be critical of various practical effect results in a franchise.
Quote-most of the criticisms he brings up cannot be applied to Predator 2 and yet he insists on saying "sequels" without specifying further. How peculiar: he mistakes personal taste with what should've been done artistically by -- hold up -- the very same team, head-by-head, that created the original creature? Damn!
-the "city hunter" is much more fleshed out character-wise than the original, and there's SEVERAL scenes in the movie testifying that -- but what would the character creators know, right? Predator 2 had literally EVERY SINGLE person involved in the original on the roster...
I don't know. This seems excessive for 10 seconds on Predator 2 and I adore Predator 2. All the content creator mentioned was it started to stray with needing a little more cheek skin, but then quickly followed it up that it still properly maintains the closed mandible look of the Jungle Hunter. I'm not sure I even agree with the tiny criticism, but it feels like you're perhaps having a slight overreaction to it.
Quote-scar is a special case because everything about that face design was strictly dictated by the direction Anderson wanted to take with that character, which was extremely specific
I highly doubt Anderson instructed ADI to make sure Scar's excess skin roll and fold in odd, peculiar, seemingly unnatural ways... "It better not appear elastic and realistic ADI! And make sure his mandible teeth point in odd weird directions too!!!!"
Quote-watch the difference between dog breeds (pug vs golden retriever) and yet they are of the same species...
Yet dog mouths, their jaw bones, are all structured in the same way, where some of ADIs Predators appear to have broken jaws.
Quote-again, fugitive has been in the lab being studied and basically tortured for some time... can't look top shape
Tortured? How so? You knock this guy for making an assumption here and there, yet to be fair, you're doing it too.
Look, full disclosure here, I loathe the ADI Predators. They have not come close at all to Stan Winston's in my opinion in regards to quality, design, proportion and realism. And I'd like to get there again. I realize some things are a result of director influence with ADI Predators. But the same can be absolutely said with Predator 1 and 2. Personally, after three tries, I believe Predators are not ADI's strong suit and hope another FX house gets a chance. Or even KNB again. At this point, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain.