Started by Ratchetcomand, Nov 15, 2007, 01:14:30 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 03:43:25 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:39:48 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.Your point isn't that DOOM is somehow still superior, merely that it's old as f**k. Hey, I love DOOM, but to sit around and say it hasn't been surpassed is beyond ridiculous.Well of course it's been surpassed. Every game will be surpassed at some point. I maintain it's the greatest game ever based on its contributions to video gaming. That's shitty reasoning. That's like saying James Naismith is the best basketball player ever because he f**king created the game. That's not how it works, Doom.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:39:48 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.Your point isn't that DOOM is somehow still superior, merely that it's old as f**k. Hey, I love DOOM, but to sit around and say it hasn't been surpassed is beyond ridiculous.Well of course it's been surpassed. Every game will be surpassed at some point. I maintain it's the greatest game ever based on its contributions to video gaming.
Quote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.Your point isn't that DOOM is somehow still superior, merely that it's old as f**k. Hey, I love DOOM, but to sit around and say it hasn't been surpassed is beyond ridiculous.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.
Quote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first Bioshock
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:44:23 AMQuote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 03:43:25 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:39:48 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.Your point isn't that DOOM is somehow still superior, merely that it's old as f**k. Hey, I love DOOM, but to sit around and say it hasn't been surpassed is beyond ridiculous.Well of course it's been surpassed. Every game will be surpassed at some point. I maintain it's the greatest game ever based on its contributions to video gaming. That's shitty reasoning. That's like saying James Naismith is the best basketball player ever because he f**king created the game. That's not how it works, Doom.Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
Quote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 03:45:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:44:23 AMQuote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 03:43:25 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:39:48 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.Your point isn't that DOOM is somehow still superior, merely that it's old as f**k. Hey, I love DOOM, but to sit around and say it hasn't been surpassed is beyond ridiculous.Well of course it's been surpassed. Every game will be surpassed at some point. I maintain it's the greatest game ever based on its contributions to video gaming. That's shitty reasoning. That's like saying James Naismith is the best basketball player ever because he f**king created the game. That's not how it works, Doom.Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.I mean he has a point. Admitting that the only reason you think it's the best is because it influenced better games is a kind of weak argument.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:47:18 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 03:45:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:44:23 AMQuote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 03:43:25 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:39:48 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.Your point isn't that DOOM is somehow still superior, merely that it's old as f**k. Hey, I love DOOM, but to sit around and say it hasn't been surpassed is beyond ridiculous.Well of course it's been surpassed. Every game will be surpassed at some point. I maintain it's the greatest game ever based on its contributions to video gaming. That's shitty reasoning. That's like saying James Naismith is the best basketball player ever because he f**king created the game. That's not how it works, Doom.Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.I mean he has a point. Admitting that the only reason you think it's the best is because it influenced better games is a kind of weak argument.How so? First of all, arguing what the greatest game ever is a moot point because it's purely subjective. Two, if you look at the roots of what we consider to be essential components of video gaming, DOOM invented them. Most notably, those would be multiplayer and mods.
Quote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 03:51:51 AMJust because DOOM was the best in its day doesn't mean it's still the best. DOOM was just an improvement of Wolfenstein 3D. By that logic does that make Wolfenstein 3D the best?
Quote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 04:00:53 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 03:51:51 AMJust because DOOM was the best in its day doesn't mean it's still the best. DOOM was just an improvement of Wolfenstein 3D. By that logic does that make Wolfenstein 3D the best?Yes.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 03:50:12 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:47:18 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 03:45:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:44:23 AMQuote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 03:43:25 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2014, 03:39:48 AMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 05, 2014, 01:35:30 AMQuote from: DoomRulz on Oct 04, 2014, 08:00:55 PMQuote from: Deathbearer on Oct 04, 2014, 03:22:01 PMDoom was the best in it's day. Let's be real here, major improvements have been made since then. Not lately since everything's gotta be CoD, but for a time there were major improvements.Plus I only liked the first BioshockWhere do you think CoD came from? It was originally built on the Quake 3 Engine. Where did Quake come from? It was a follow-up to DOOM, in a way. Every single shooter out there owes its heritage to DOOM and id Software.Your point isn't that DOOM is somehow still superior, merely that it's old as f**k. Hey, I love DOOM, but to sit around and say it hasn't been surpassed is beyond ridiculous.Well of course it's been surpassed. Every game will be surpassed at some point. I maintain it's the greatest game ever based on its contributions to video gaming. That's shitty reasoning. That's like saying James Naismith is the best basketball player ever because he f**king created the game. That's not how it works, Doom.Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.I mean he has a point. Admitting that the only reason you think it's the best is because it influenced better games is a kind of weak argument.How so? First of all, arguing what the greatest game ever is a moot point because it's purely subjective. Two, if you look at the roots of what we consider to be essential components of video gaming, DOOM invented them. Most notably, those would be multiplayer and mods.It's so f**king obvious how much bias and nostalgia you're suffering from right now.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Oct 05, 2014, 04:22:33 AMYeah, especially when you're wrong.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Oct 05, 2014, 04:26:51 AMDoom is the same game as wolfenstein with different skins.