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Well, I know I for one have no intention of owning GoT on home media anymore, and that's because of the ending.
It's rewatchability is kneecapped for myself.
Agreed sister.
It's hard to burn discs, and stupid. Ebay it is!
They're already advertising Season 8 on Instagram. The comments... oh my
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They'll be showing their displeasure the only other way they can. With their wallet. Season 8 media. New show merchandise.
What's interesting for me is I have little interest for the spin-offs now. If it ended well it would be just the opposite. I would have been so pumped, just like I was for the Hobbit trilogy. But now?
Yeah, they'll probably see a hit in their revenue. I've never cared for the prequels, my interest in the show started to diminish right around season 6 and 7, because that's where the quality of the writing really started to slump. But I wanted to watch it to at least see characters finish their arcs, that has been my biggest problem with season 8, as bad as season 6 and 7 might have been, they didn't completely shit all over characters like season 8 (except for Littlefinger)
Yeah, I believe most of us saw the diminishing of writing quality like you did, but I personally always found it manageable as a fan, and there were still some great episodes among them in my opinion. But you're right, there was no shitting on the main character arcs, so it still had my loyalty.
If there's any silver-lining, I do believe the disaster that is Season 8 will be a textbook example tought in screen writing classes on what not to do, for years to come.
I hope so. The general public at large tend not to care about these things. As long as they get the big spectacles, they can look over the mistakes and wrong turns in writing as long as they get the 'fan service' and I think a lot of future productions will gravitate towards this trend. I know I've joked about the Burlington Bar and other reaction channels, but a lot of them are really all about that OMG moment, instead of following a good story.
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This was a criticism I had of Endgame. Not trying to start a discussion on here btw but I felt some of the flaws were overlooked because that final battle was so epic and amazing to watch.
Jon is a perfect example, Brought back to life the following season for nothing. King in the North for nothing. Perhaps the worst one, revealing he is a Targaeryan for nothing more than letting him ride a dragon. It literally went nowhere else.
Dany's flip was supposed to be a Red Wedding moment, the difference being that the Red Wedding was slowly built up, subtle hints and a culmination as the consequences of Robb's choices. Dany wasn't. characters talking about the mad king, and Dany killing her enemies after offering them the chance to submit are not enough. They sacrificed logic for a 'gotcha' moment, and it really shows. This season was all spectacle, no story. Nobody has criticised the effects or the prodcution value, all the criticism is levelled towards the writing.
Spectacle is fine, fan service is fine, mindless entertainment is fine. The problem is, Game of Thrones was never about any of this in the beginning.
It was a deep character study set in a fantasy world.
That's why I am so encouraged over all the complaints of destroyed character arcs among critics and fans alike when GoT episode 5 hit. The fact the majority recognized these problems meant that, as I previously said somewhere on this thread, I have hope for society again.
Destroying character arcs is something Endgame didn't do, so even though it stumbled across the finish line in narrative and logic, it gets a pass from me much like Return of the Jedi. But if Endgame was the best there was in the MCU, I and many probably wouldn't have invested in the journey to begin with.
As a whole, I am discouraged with the decline in quality screenwriting of current cinema, but I've come to realize the tremendous uptick in quality in television series screenwriting (GoT S8 excluded), probably has something to do with it. A steady and reliable regular income and the larger scope of the format is probably attracting the best writers.
Absolutely. Endgame had issues, but nothing as egregious as GoT. But we can have this discussion elsewhere
It's because the writing of GoT was of such high quality that seasons 6, 7 and especially season 8 hurt so much. What was promised simply wasn't delivered, and to settle for anything less is a little dishonest. If fans just keep quiet about these things, studios will keep doing it. If D&D wanted out to focus on other projects, then they should have handed over the reins to somebody else. HBO should have foreseen this, they are just as culpable for this, either that or they simply don't care, because the vast general audience will give it a pass so long as the boom and the bang and the OMG moments keep coming.
I've read a lot of people complaining that fans are 'entitled' as if the show owes them something. It does. It owes them a true, well written, well produced ending, not a rushed, barely thought out finale where things just happen to move the show along. Even the typical entertainment shills on Youtube are struggling to defend this horror show of a season, though a few will try.
This isn't me being disappointed by things not playing out the way I wanted, this is disappointment how things played out. I'm fine with some of the endings for characters, but I hate the final third of the journey for most of them.
Jamie, Tyrion, Dany, Jon, Varys, Littlefinger, Cersei were either wasted, or completely butchered, to the point where their characters were unrecognisable, and that is not acceptable.